Vested Interest #22: Exploring the Future of Skill-Based Gaming
NEXT.io Podcast11 Kesä 2025

Vested Interest #22: Exploring the Future of Skill-Based Gaming

🎙NEXT.io Podcast #22 of Vested Interest with Pierre Lindh, Lloyd Danzig and Benjie Cherniak.From summer slumps to AI disruption, the trio returns to unpack three high-stakes themes shaping the future of gaming startups:👇 Here’s what they cover:- How to keep growing through the summer slowdown- Why skill-based games are booming (again) and what’s different this time- The state of affiliate businesses and how AI, SEO, and chatbots are reshaping the model⏰ Timestamps:00:00 - Intro00:18 - Sponsor messages01:38 - Welcoming Benjie and Lloyd02:10 - Can you grow during summer? Founders vs. excuses07:42 - How NEXT.io handles seasonality with strategic summer planning13:52 - Skill-Based Gaming14:30 - The evolution and new wave of real-money skill games16:21 - Triumph, FanDuel, Bring It On and global market potential22:14 - Regulatory arbitrage and go-to-market benefits24:44 - What happens when operators join in? M&A and mainstream interest26:58 - The Affiliate Collapse27:35 - Market dip, SEO crashes & winners like Gambling.com31:04 - Fewer state openings, changing user behavior32:52 - Why SEO isn't enough anymore 35:56 - Lessons from Catena Media and the danger of single-market bets39:29 - What affiliate SEO looks like in the LLM era40:44 - Final thoughts 🔔 SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST

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#39 - Jesper Kärrbrink, Green Jade Games, Chairman (iGaming sustainability)

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#38 - Robin Eirik Reed, Investor (ESG, Sustainability, M&A, Disruption, New venture)

#38 - Robin Eirik Reed, Investor (ESG, Sustainability, M&A, Disruption, New venture)

Robin Eirik Reed Co-founded GiG 10 years ago and successfully grew the company to €150m revenue. In 2019, Robin became an inductee in the iGaming IDOL Hall of Fame. He has launched his new iGaming ope...

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#37 - Manuel Stan, SVP USA - Kindred Group (Making it big in the U.S.A)

#37 - Manuel Stan, SVP USA - Kindred Group (Making it big in the U.S.A)

Manuel started in the gambling industry with BetBrain in 2005 in Bucharest, before relocating to London in 2008 to join Unibet. Manuel held roles focused on Central and Eastern Europe until 2012 when ...

21 Joulu 202049min

#36 - Phil Pearson, Head of Sales - iGaming Group (20201 - The good, the bad, the ugly)

#36 - Phil Pearson, Head of Sales - iGaming Group (20201 - The good, the bad, the ugly)

Phil Pearson is the Head of white labels and sales for iGaming Group and iGaming Platform, who specialise in a fully managed casino solution for MGA or curacao based operations. With a cutting edge ba...

17 Joulu 20201h 27min

#35 - Tim Heath, Founder - Coingaming Group (Past, Present, Future of iGaming)

#35 - Tim Heath, Founder - Coingaming Group (Past, Present, Future of iGaming)

From establishing his first venture capital firm in 2017, Tim Heath continues to draw upon two decades of experience within the iGaming and emerging technology industries. He was an early adopter of B...

9 Joulu 20201h 31min

#34 - Boris Chaikin, CEO Soft2bet (maintaining exponential growth)

#34 - Boris Chaikin, CEO Soft2bet (maintaining exponential growth)

Soft2bet is pioneering the future of casino and sportsbook B2B platform supplier with an extensive portfolio comprising 30+ innovative brands; delivering top quality, gamified casino and sports bettin...

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#33 - Jesper Svensson, CEO - Betsson Group (iGaming - Pandemic & Recession proof)

#33 - Jesper Svensson, CEO - Betsson Group (iGaming - Pandemic & Recession proof)

Jesper Svensson has been in the gaming industry since the mid-2000s. Over the years he worked in senior positions in several gaming companies in Europe and Asia. He joined Betsson in 2013 as the manag...

27 Marras 20201h 8min

#32 - Allan Stone, CEO - Intelitics (Future industry trends)

#32 - Allan Stone, CEO - Intelitics (Future industry trends)

Allan Stone is the CEO and Co-Founder of Intelitics. Intelitics’ igaming performance marketing and business intelligence saas platform provides Real-Time data in a clear and Accurate format, empowerin...

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