David Bashevkin & Malka Simkovich: Can Judaism Survive the AI Revolution? (Fifth Year Anniversary)

David Bashevkin & Malka Simkovich: Can Judaism Survive the AI Revolution? (Fifth Year Anniversary)

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In this episode of the 18Forty Podcast, David Bashevkin and historian Malka Simkovich discuss the future of technology, AI, and the Jewish People. This episode was recorded live at the Moise Safra Center as 18Forty celebrated its Fifth Anniversary with our community.

We begin with words from Sruli Fruchter and Mitch Eichen delivered at the program, as well as questions from the audience to conclude. In this episode we discuss:

  • What is the point of academia and asking questions?
  • Will AI replace rabbinic authority or the conversations we have on 18Forty?
  • Is there any topic that 18Forty will never take on?
Tune in to hear a conversation about what we’ve learned through the seismic shifts we’ve experienced over the past half-decade.


Introduction from Sruli Fruchter begins at 9:05.
Introduction from Mitch Eichen begins at 12:50.
Interview begins at 17:26.

Dr. Malka Simkovich is the director and editor-in-chief of the Jewish Publication Society and previously served as the Crown-Ryan Chair of Jewish Studies and Director of the Catholic-Jewish Studies program at Catholic Theological Union in Chicago. She earned a doctoral degree in Second Temple and Rabbinic Judaism from Brandeis University and a Master’s degree in Hebrew Bible from Harvard University. She is the author of The Making of Jewish Universalism: From Exile to Alexandria (2016), Discovering Second Temple Literature: The Scriptures and Stories That Shaped Early Judaism (2018), and Letters From Home: The Creation of Diaspora in Jewish Antiquity, (2024). She has been a three-time guest on the 18Forty Podcast and led our Book Journey on the essence of antisemitism.

David Bashevkin is the founder and host of 18Forty. He is also the director of education for NCSY, the youth movement of the Orthodox Union, and the Clinical Assistant Professor of Jewish Values at the Sy Syms School of Business at Yeshiva University. He completed rabbinic ordination at Yeshiva University’s Rabbi Isaac Elchanan Theological Seminary, as well as a master’s degree at the Bernard Revel Graduate School of Jewish Studies focusing on the thought of Rabbi Zadok of Lublin under the guidance of Dr. Yaakov Elman. He completed his doctorate in Public Policy and Management at The New School’s Milano School of International Affairs, focusing on crisis management. He has published four books: Sin·a·gogue: Sin and Failure in Jewish Thought, a Hebrew work B’Rogez Rachem Tizkor (trans. In Anger, Remember Mercy), Top 5: Lists of Jewish Character and Character, and Just One: The NCSY Haggadah. David has been rejected from several prestigious fellowships and awards.

References:


18Forty: Exploring Big Questions (An Introduction)

18Forty Podcast: “Philo Judaeus: Is There a Room for Dialogue?

18Forty Podcast: “Daniel Hagler and Aryeh Englander: Can Jews Who Stay Talk With Jews Who Left?

The Nineties: A Book by by Chuck Klosterman

Einstein's Dreams by Alan Lightman

Time Must Have a Stop by Aldous Huxley

Laughing with Kafka” by David Foster Wallace

The Most Human Human: What Talking with Computers Teaches Us About What It Means to Be Alive by Brian Christian

Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas R. Hofstadter

"Failure Comes To Yeshivah" by David Bashevkin

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Rabbi Meir Triebitz: How Should We Approach the Science of the Torah? [Science 4/4]

Rabbi Meir Triebitz: How Should We Approach the Science of the Torah? [Science 4/4]

In this episode of the 18Forty Podcast, we sit down with Rabbi Meir Triebitz – Rosh Yeshiva, PhD, and expert on matters of science and the Torah – to discuss what kind of science we can learn from the Torah. The Torah, and especially the Talmud, addresses a wide subject matter including theology, morality, metaphysics, and science. It is sometimes said to contain all knowledge – meaning that we could learn anything from the Torah, which seems to imply that all of the Torah’s scientific claims are true. Some welcome this perspective, while others object to it. -What is the Torah’s subject matter?-Does it contain irreconcilable scientific claims?-Should a statement’s subject matter change how we interpret it?-What if we aren’t supposed to interpret a statement as scientifically true, but our Halakhah today is in some way predicated on the statement being true?-And does our not interpreting a statement literally mean it isn’t true, or just that we can’t understand it?Tune in to hear Rabbi Meir Triebitz discuss his perspective on these age-old science and Torah questions. For more, visit https://18forty.org/science/#triebitz.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/18forty-podcast--4344730/support.

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Rabbi David Fohrman: Does the Torah Teach Science? [Science 3/4]

Rabbi David Fohrman: Does the Torah Teach Science? [Science 3/4]

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Professor Allison Coudert: How did Religion Influence Science? [Science 2/4]

Professor Allison Coudert: How did Religion Influence Science? [Science 2/4]

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Dr. Jeremy England: What Does a Scientist See in the Torah? [Science 1/4]

Dr. Jeremy England: What Does a Scientist See in the Torah? [Science 1/4]

In this episode of the 18Forty Podcast, we sit down with Dr. Jeremy England, physicist and biologist, to discuss his lives as a Jew and an academic, and how, if at all, those lives interact. Jeremy grew up a barely-affiliated Jew and obtained a degree in biochemistry from Harvard, but discovered his love for Judaism and began reading authors like Rabbi Jonathan Sacks and Ruth Weiss. He is an accomplished scientist, having posited the theory of dissipative adaptation to explain abiogenesis, but still sees a depth and meaning to the words of the Torah. Though science plays an important role in his life, he feels that has managed to find a role for Torah despite this fact without compromising on the ideals of either. - What are the abilities and limitations of science?- What are the abilities and limitations of Torah?- As a scientist, how did Jeremy reconcile the two as he became more religious?- How does the study of each compare to the other?- And what role should they ultimately play in one’s life?Tune in to hear Jeremy England discuss his theory of abiogenesis and of living an intellectually complete life. For more, visit https://18forty.org/science/#england.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/18forty-podcast--4344730/support.

17 Marras 20201h 49min

Rav Moshe Weinberger: Can Mysticism Become a Community? [Mysticism 3/3]

Rav Moshe Weinberger: Can Mysticism Become a Community? [Mysticism 3/3]

In this episode of the 18Forty Podcast, we sit down with Rav Moshe Weinberger, rabbi and educator, to discuss the role of mysticism in modern-day Judaism. Rav Weinberger grew up Modern Orthodox and became attracted to Chassidus at a young age. Though he is a fan of the yeshiva system and believes that Halakha cannot be compromised, he has long watched with anguish as countless products of the system have been turned off by the dry, inhumane version of Yiddishkeit taught to them. Rav Weinberger believes that Jewish education must evolve over time, and that Chassidus is as good an approach as any for the current generation. -How can one go about strengthening their connection to Hashem?-What are the educational challenges of today’s generation?-Where does the modern-day yeshiva system succeed, and where does it fail its students?-And how can we attempt to tweak the system to suit everyone’s needs?Tune in to hear Rav Moshe Weinberger discuss the challenges that he sees facing today’s generation of young Jews. For more, visit https://18forty.org/mysticism/#weinberger.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/18forty-podcast--4344730/support.

3 Marras 20201h 12min

Dr. Ora Wiskind: How do you Read a Mystical Text? [Mysticism 2/3]

Dr. Ora Wiskind: How do you Read a Mystical Text? [Mysticism 2/3]

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27 Loka 20201h 5min

Joey Rosenfeld: Can Mysticism Heal Us? [Mysticism 1/3]

Joey Rosenfeld: Can Mysticism Heal Us? [Mysticism 1/3]

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20 Loka 20201h 24min

Samuel G. Freedman: Can Jew vs. Jew Ever Become Jew with Jew? [Peoplehood 4/4]

Samuel G. Freedman: Can Jew vs. Jew Ever Become Jew with Jew? [Peoplehood 4/4]

In this episode of the 18Forty Podcast, we sit down with Professor of Journalism at Columbia and author, Samuel G. Freedman, to talk about dissent not as a cause of ugliness and divide, but of beauty and unity. Some would say that disagreement isn’t a bug of the Jewish community, but a feature. We have a rich history of debate in the Talmud and haven’t been able to shake this dubious quality even in the modern day United States. The internet has only exaggerated this, and while one can argue for the benefits of dissent, the fact that Jews seem embroiled in a perpetual state of debate remains. -Is debate a healthy state of mind for our community?-Should we be looking to avoid debate or embrace it?-Does dissent cause only divide or can it be used as a means of understanding the other members of our community?Tune in to hear Samuel discuss the roles that individual Jews play in the larger debate that is the Jewish community. For more, visit https://18forty.org/peoplehood/#freedmanBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/18forty-podcast--4344730/support.

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