No Apologies Given With 'Bar' McKinnon From UMLAUT

Interview by Kris Peters
At first glance/listen, Melbourne-based experimental collective Umlaut are yet another in a growing line of bands creating 'art' instead of music by throwing together an eclectic grouping of sounds and instruments as their personal choice of expression. Their style and seemingly haphazard musical output is, at first, difficult to take in, but once you find out the backstory to the band things seem to make infinitely more sense and the proverbial penny drops like a lead balloon.
All of a sudden, the same music that 60 seconds ago sounded like a layered multitude of messiness now sounds like a Picasso painting would were it able to sing. Why?
Because Umlaut's founding member is none other than Clinton ‘Bär’ McKinnon. You know the one? The same guy that was a major part of Mr. Bungle's sound before the turn of the century? Except this time as Umlaut prepares to drop their new album Desole there's another person who, by presence alone, helps set the askew things into a more palatable delicacy. His is another name you should recall - especially if you are a Bungle fan.
Joining Umlaut with McKinnon - funnily enough, with both of them now living in Australia - is former Mr. Bungle skin thumper Danny Heifitz. Along with Angus Leslie and Shane Lieber, Umlaut's new, more streamlined four-piece are diving headfirst into a new chapter—one forged in chemistry, intuition, and a shared love of unpredictability.
With Desole scheduled for a July 25 release, HEAVY was granted exclusive time with McKinnon to discuss a wide range of topics, from the new album to his days with Mr. Bungle and everything in between.
"This thing has been so delayed and a long time coming," he sighed. "On some levels, I don't even believe that it's going to come out (laughs). I'm hoping that it does!"
We ask McKinnon to go deeper into Desole from a musical point of view and what he was going for with it.
"In the past, it's been a very instrumental, chamber-pop affair with some songs thrown in there with vocals," he measured. "This album is pretty vocal-heavy in a way and straight-ahead in a lot of ways. It's funny, I get these questions like, what is different about this album? And I'm not really sure. The main difference with this album is that it's got the legendary Danny Heifetz on drums from Mr. Bungle, the true DNA of Mr. Bungle. And he's down here in this town with us and has graced us with his drumming on this album. We're really excited about that and people hearing that. I think people will hear that Mr. Bungle DNA in the drums when they hear Danny doing his thing. It's just very straight ahead, it doesn't it doesn't mess around."
In the full interview, Clinton discussed further the release of Desolé, humorously critiquing its title and sharing insights into the production challenges they faced. He provided details about the musical style, noting a shift towards a more vocal-heavy and energetic sound, influenced by drummer Danny Heifetz's contributions.
Clinton reflected on the emotional journey of releasing music, likening it to a parent's hopes for their child, and discussed the balance between creating hit songs and maintaining authenticity. He emphasized the collaborative nature of Umlaut, highlighting the importance of each member's input, particularly guitarist Angus's production skills. The conversation also touched on the desire for listeners to appreciate the album as a whole rather than just singles, with HEAVY endorsing the album's quality and encouraging the band to continue their creative efforts.
Talk also turned to Mr. Bungle's tenure as a band, including some funny insights into his relationship with Mike Patton. We spoke about Bungle's legacy and what they brought to music and more.


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