Uncle Bob Martin: Software Leader - Episode 357
AI DevOps Podcast7 Heinä 2025

Uncle Bob Martin: Software Leader - Episode 357

Robert C. Martin, more often known as Uncle Bob, has been programming since 1970 and has served as a mentor to generations of software engineers. He's one of the original authors of the Agile Manifesto and played a foundational role in forming the Agile Alliance, where he served as its first chairman. But beyond titles and organizations, Bob's lasting impact comes through his writing, his lectures, and his philosophy of software craftsmanship. He has spoken at conferences around the world — QCon, Agile 20XX, IT Days, and countless other industry gatherings — always advocating for clarity, discipline, and ethical responsibility in code. And if you've ever read Clean Code, The Clean Coder, or Clean Architecture, you know that he doesn't just teach how to build systems — he challenges us to become better professionals in the process. His most recent work, Functional Design, continues this legacy, distilling decades of experience into patterns and principles that are just as relevant today as they were when he first put finger to keyboard.

Topics of Discussion:

[2:22] Uncle Bob's advice for young programmers entering the field: Be cautious with AI tools, learn fundamental programming skills, and understand that AI won't replace programmers.

[4:42] Get to the basics first, and then you can move on: Master core programming skills and fundamentals before relying too heavily on AI or advanced tools.

[8:19] The impact of AI on experienced developers.

[15:44] Highlighting the role of programmers in managing low-level details that managers and customers don't want to think about.

[18:43] Programmers as language learners.

[27:19] The state of Agile methodologies.

[29:33] The original Agile goal of making small teams work efficiently together, which remains a crucial challenge.

[35:37] Discussing the limitations of university computer science programs and the potential of trade school or apprenticeship models.

[36:07] What's next for Uncle Bob?

Mentioned in this Episode:

Clear Measure Way

Architect Forum

Software Engineer Forum

Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net.

Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor)

Clean Agile: Back to Basics

Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship

We, Programmers: A Chronicle of Coders from Ada to AI

"Uncle Bob Martin: Clean Code and How to Do Software Well - Episode 283"

Functional Design: Principles, Patterns, and Practices

UncleBob on GitHub

The Clean Code Blog

Agile Principles, Patterns, Practices

Clean Coders

Want to Learn More?

Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

Jaksot(394)

Aaron Palermo on Cybersecurity and SDP - Episode 018

Aaron Palermo on Cybersecurity and SDP - Episode 018

Today's episode is a bit of a special one — your host, Jeffrey Palermo, interviews his own older brother, Aaron Palermo. Aaron is a DevOps engineer, solution architect, and all-around cybersecurity ex...

7 Tammi 201952min

Gopinath Chigakkagari on Key Optimizations for Azure Pipelines - Episode 017

Gopinath Chigakkagari on Key Optimizations for Azure Pipelines - Episode 017

In today's episode, your host, Jeffrey Palermo, is joined by his guest, Gopinath Chigakkagari. Gopinath is Principal Group Program Manager on the Azure Pipelines product and is an expert on continuous...

31 Joulu 201830min

Roopesh Nair on the Release Capabilities of Azure Pipelines - Episode 016

Roopesh Nair on the Release Capabilities of Azure Pipelines - Episode 016

Today's episode of the Azure DevOps Podcast is featuring Roopesh Nair, a Principal Lead Program Manager at Microsoft. He has over 20 years of experience in custom software. And at Microsoft, he works ...

24 Joulu 201835min

Chris Patterson on the Future of Azure Pipelines - Episode 015

Chris Patterson on the Future of Azure Pipelines - Episode 015

Today's episode is all about the future of Azure Pipelines. To discuss this topic is Chris Patterson, Principal Program Manager at Microsoft. Chris has been working at Microsoft for over 13 years — st...

17 Joulu 201839min

Jeremy Epling on Azure Pipelines - Episode 014

Jeremy Epling on Azure Pipelines - Episode 014

In today's episode Jeffrey is joined by Jeremy Epling, Head of Product for Azure Pipelines and a Principal Group Program Manager at Microsoft. He has been a leader at Microsoft for over 15 years in va...

10 Joulu 201845min

Jamie Cool on What's Going On in Azure DevOps - Episode 013

Jamie Cool on What's Going On in Azure DevOps - Episode 013

In this episode, Jeffrey Palermo is joined by Jamie Cool to discuss what's going on in Azure DevOps! Jamie is the Director of Program Management for Microsoft. In his role he manages dozens of Program...

3 Joulu 201836min

Henry Been on Security with DevOps - Episode 012

Henry Been on Security with DevOps - Episode 012

In this episode, Jeffrey is discussing security in DevOps with his guest, Henry Been. Henry is an independent DevOps and Azure architect from the Netherlands. He enjoys working with development teams ...

26 Marras 201828min

Eric Hexter on DevOps Diagnostics - Episode 011

Eric Hexter on DevOps Diagnostics - Episode 011

In today's episode, Jeffrey is joined by Eric Hexter, the Chief Technology Officer of Quarterspot LASO — a fintech company that produces lending platforms using machine learning. He built the company ...

19 Marras 201856min

Suosittua kategoriassa Politiikka ja uutiset

uutiscast
aikalisa
ootsa-kuullut-tasta-2
rss-ootsa-kuullut-tasta
politiikan-puskaradio
tervo-halme
rss-podme-livebox
rss-vaalirankkurit-podcast
et-sa-noin-voi-sanoo-esittaa
otetaan-yhdet
the-ulkopolitist
rss-asiastudio
rikosmyytit
aihe
rss-merja-mahkan-rahat
rss-kaikki-uusiksi
rss-hyvaa-huomenta-bryssel
rss-aijat-hopottaa-podcast
rss-sanna-ukkola-show-verkkouutiset
rss-vain-talouselamaa