DSP 135. The Infrastructure Behind Digital Production: A Conversation with Steve Dodier-Lazaro
Patterns Podcast8 Heinä 2025

DSP 135. The Infrastructure Behind Digital Production: A Conversation with Steve Dodier-Lazaro

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Design systems aren’t just a UI toolkit—they’re the backbone of digital product creation and management. In this episode, engineer and researcher Steve Dodier-Lazaro joins Chris Strahl to unpack why treating design systems like standalone products is holding teams back. They explore what it really takes to scale product design and development in enterprise environments—from shared tooling and token standards to how AI and LLMs can bridge messy, real-wo...

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102. David Müller: Intentional Breakpoints and AI Insights

102. David Müller: Intentional Breakpoints and AI Insights

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we invite you to join us as we engage in a conversation with David Müller, a product designer and design systems...

29 Helmi 202429min

101. PJ Onori of Pinterest/Disney: Design Systems Shifting the Productivity Paradigm

101. PJ Onori of Pinterest/Disney: Design Systems Shifting the Productivity Paradigm

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. PJ Onori, a design systems veteran since 2011 and a driving force behind Pinterest's Gestalt system, talks about the transformative impact of design systems on...

20 Helmi 202438min

100. Brian Dorsey on Design and Engineering Synergy at Mastercard

100. Brian Dorsey on Design and Engineering Synergy at Mastercard

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join us for a milestone episode of The Design Systems Podcast, featuring Brian Dorsey, a key contributor to Mastercard's groundbreaking design system MADE. Exp...

13 Helmi 202429min

99. Jackie Lai, Lead UX Designer at OPIS Dow Jones, on Creating Future-Proof Systems

99. Jackie Lai, Lead UX Designer at OPIS Dow Jones, on Creating Future-Proof Systems

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. On this episode of DSP, we welcome guest Jackie Lai, a lead UX designer at OPIS, a Dow Jones company, with a rich background in interactive and product design....

7 Helmi 202429min

98. Exploring Alexandrian Patterns in Design Systems with Kevin Muldoon at Dow Jones

98. Exploring Alexandrian Patterns in Design Systems with Kevin Muldoon at Dow Jones

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode of The Design Systems Podcast, we’re joined by guest Kevin Muldoon, Lead Design Technologist/Design Systems at Dow Jones, to discuss the concep...

30 Tammi 202428min

97. Curt Schreiber, CCO at VSA, on Building Global Design Systems for Scale

97. Curt Schreiber, CCO at VSA, on Building Global Design Systems for Scale

Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Curt Schreiber, Chief Creative Officer at VSA Partners, joins us for a compelling conversation on the multifaceted nature of design systems. We explore how thes...

23 Tammi 202436min

96. Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye: Navigating Career Pathways in Design Systems

96. Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye: Navigating Career Pathways in Design Systems

Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye join host Chris Strahl in a candid conversation that explores career pathways within the evolving realm of design systems amidst th...

16 Tammi 202444min

95. Matt Weinberg, Sr. Product Designer at Angi: Empathy-First Approach to Evolving Design Systems

95. Matt Weinberg, Sr. Product Designer at Angi: Empathy-First Approach to Evolving Design Systems

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we discuss the evolution of design systems with special guest Matt Weinberg, Senior Product Designer at Angi. Ma...

2 Tammi 202425min