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172. Shoulder pain assessment & clinical reasoning. Physio Edge Shoulder Success podcast with Jo Gibson

Your patient presents with shoulder pain, and straight away you need to identify:

Is it rotator cuff related shoulder pain, frozen shoulder, instability, or something else entirely?

Is it rotator cuff related shoulder pain, frozen shoulder, instability, or something else entirely?
Is the pain actually coming from the shoulder?
Could it be the cervical spine?
Is there a tear that needs urgent referral?
Should you order imaging? Refer to a surgeon? Or confidently continue with rehab?

In this podcast, Jo Gibson (Upper Limb Rehabilitation Specialist Physio) guides you through a simple, evidence-informed clinical reasoning framework to help you confidently assess and treat patients with shoulder pain.

Drawing on decades of clinical experience and the latest research, Jo breaks down four essential questions you need to ask in every shoulder assessment—helping you identify red flags, tailor your treatment plan, and avoid common diagnostic pitfalls.

In this episode, you'll discover:

How to distinguish shoulder pain from cervical spine referral
Key subjective clues that guide your diagnosis and treatment decisions
Whether it's "torn"—and how to know if a surgical referral is appropriate
Clinical signs that help differentiate frozen shoulder from other causes of stiffness
Why pain irritability matters—and how it impacts your rehab approach
When to use (and when to avoid) imaging
How to identify instability and assess the likelihood of recurrence
What assessment tests to perform in your objective examination
The real value—and limitations—of special tests like the Hawkins-Kennedy, drop arm, Hornblower's, and more.
How to modify testing to better isolate rotator cuff contributions
Why symptom modification tests are useful—and what they tell you
How to help your patient overcome fear, regain confidence, and move again
What research says about exercise prescription, and how many exercises you should give patients

Listen in to strengthen your clinical reasoning and give your shoulder assessments a clear structure that helps you feel more confident—and gets better outcomes for your patients.

Chapters:

00:00 - Intro
03:12 - Subjective clues that guide diagnosis
04:33 - What to call shoulder pain? RCRSP or SAP?
06:04 - 4 key questions to ask
06:29 - Cervical spine driven shoulder pain
10:03 - Is it torn and does it matter?
11:29 - Traumatic dislocations
12:37 - Special tests in the "Is it torn" group
15:56 - Is it stiff?
17:36 - Is it irritable?
20:38 - Can I change it?
23:05 - Summary

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Chapters:

00:00:00 - Intro
00:03:12 - Subjective clues that guide diagnosis
00:04:33 - What to call shoulder pain? RCRSP or SAP?
00:06:04 - 4 key questions to ask
00:06:29 - Cervical spine driven shoulder pain
00:10:03 - Is it torn and does it matter?
00:11:29 - Traumatic dislocations
00:12:37 - Special tests in the "Is it torn" group
00:15:56 - Is it stiff?
00:17:36 - Is it irritable?
00:20:38 - Can I change it?
00:23:05 - Summary

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