197. Apocalypse Never? | Michael Shellenberger

197. Apocalypse Never? | Michael Shellenberger

This episode was recorded on October 4th, 2021 Dr. Jordan Peterson and Michael Shellenberger exchange ideas about the Apocalyptic Environmentalism that is getting mainstream coverage. Michael sheds light on the true impact of climate change and the theory of nuclear peace. As they dive into Michael’s new book, “San Fransicko: Why Progressives Ruin Cities'', Dr. Peterson shares his view on the book and what he enjoyed about it. Michael Shellenberger is the best-selling author of Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All, a Time Magazine “Hero of the Environment,” and “Green Book Award” winner. He is also the Founder and President of Environmental Progress, an independent and nonprofit research organization based in Berkeley, California. He advises policymakers around the world and has writings and TED talks viewed over 5 million times. Read Michael’s books: https://shorturl.at/eijoL Check out Environmental Progress: https://environmentalprogress.org Follow Michael on Twitter: https://shorturl.at/amLO2 ———————————— Shownotes ———————————— [00:00] Jordan introduces this week's guest, Michael Shellenberger. [01:07] The meaning of “Time” magazine “hero of environment” and “green book award winner”. [01:33] Michael’s thoughts on the impact of environmentalism on mental health. [02:59] Who Michael Shellenberger is and his book "Apocalypse Never." [05:49] Cognitive Behavior Therapy. [07:44] Dr. Peterson’s view towards dealing with problems. [08:44] Being a good person according to Dr. Peterson. [11:59] The religious movement of Apocalyptic Environmentalism. [13:19] Dr. Peterson and values. [21:17] Death of God and the highest ideal. [24:02] Nature and the positive feminine. [25:04] 'The Great Mother' by Erich Neumann. [27:33] The relationship between plastic waste and OCD. [29:57] Vegetarianism & the ritual of saying grace. [31:04] Why Dr. Jordan thinks Becker's book is flawed. [32:09] Erich Neumann 'The Origins and History of Consciousness.' [36:31] Mass Extinction. [37:49] Land production according to Michael Shellenberger. [38:34] Temple Grandin. [43:58] How sweatshops save the planet. [45:23] Dr. Peterson shares his perspective on subsistence farming. [48:35] The smart environmentalists. [52:07] The food surpluses and population declines. [53:12] The reduction of carbon emissions. [55:27] Dr. Peterson comments on being at a subsistence level. [56:11] Michael’s connection between benevolence and energy transformation. [57:12] Dr. Peterson comments on the relationship between work and energy. [57:40] Depression and the environment. [59:53] Displacement and nuclear power plants. [01:02:16] The theory of nuclear weapons & peace. [01:06:19] The unwarranted apocalypse. [01:08:21] Shellenberger comments on climate change. [01:09:48] Dealing with the runaway positive feedback loop. [01:12:58] Dr. Peterson and “safe routes”. [01:14:10] Dr. Peterson’s perspective towards apocalypses. [01:15:15] Dealing with crisis and resilience to different kinds of catastrophes. [01:17:09] Prosperity and eradicating poverty. [01:20:59] The environmental problems we should address. [01:24:47] The problem with the free market obsession. [01:27:42] San FranSicko - Shellenberger’s book. [01:32:25] Pathological altruism. [01:34:08] Dr. Peterson’s thoughts on excessive compassion. [01:37:43] The hero's journey. [01:38:46] The most reliable cure for alcoholism according to Dr. Peterson. [01:40:04] Victor Frankl, blaming the victim, and the positive maternal. [01:45:04] How people in Amsterdam and America deal with addiction. // SPONSORS // Interested in sponsoring my audio podcast? Reach out to my advertising team here: sponsorships@jordanbpeterson.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The Great Sacrifice: Abraham and Isaac

The Great Sacrifice: Abraham and Isaac

Lecture 12 in the Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories series In this, the final lecture of the Summer 2017 12-part series The Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories, we encounter, first, Hagar's banishment to the desert with Ishmael and then the demand made by God to Abraham for the sacrifice of Isaac. To sacrifice now is to gain later: perhaps the greatest of human discoveries. What, then, should best be sacrificed? And what might be the greatest gain? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Sodom and Gomorrah

Sodom and Gomorrah

Lecture 11 in the Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories series. Often interpreted as an injunction against homosexuality (particularly by those simultaneously claiming identity as Christians and opposed to that orientation), the stories of the angels who visit Abraham, bless him, and then rain destruction on Sodom and Gomorrah are more truly a warning against mistreatment of the stranger and impulsive, dysregulated, sybaritic conduct. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

4 Syys 20172h 39min

Abraham: Father of Nations

Abraham: Father of Nations

Lecture 10 in the Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories series. The Abrahamic adventures continue with this, the tenth lecture in my 12-part initial Biblical lecture series. Abraham's life is presented as a series of encapsulated narratives, punctuated by sacrifice, and the rekindling of his covenant with God. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

31 Elo 20172h 36min

The Call to Abraham

The Call to Abraham

Lecture 9 in my Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories series. In this lecture, I tell the story of Abraham, who heeds the call of God to leave what was familiar behind and to journey into unknown lands. The man portrayed in the Bible as the father of nations moves forward into the world. He encounters the worst of nature (famine), society (the tyranny of Egypt) and the envy of the powerful, who desire his wife. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

25 Elo 20172h 43min

The Phenomenology of the Divine

The Phenomenology of the Divine

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22 Elo 20173h 12min

Walking With God: Noah and the Flood

Walking With God: Noah and the Flood

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19 Elo 20172h 38min

The Psychology of the Flood

The Psychology of the Flood

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19 Heinä 20172h 44min

Cain and Abel: The Hostile Brothers

Cain and Abel: The Hostile Brothers

Lecture 5 in my Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories lecture series The account of Cain and Abel is remarkable for its unique combination of brevity and depth. In a few short sentences, it outlines two diametrically opposed modes of being -- both responses to the emergence of self-consciousness and the knowledge of good and evil detailed in story of Adam and Eve. Cain's mode of being -- resentful, arrogant and murderous -- arises because his sacrifices are rejected by God. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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