198. Enlightenment and the Righteous Mind | Steven Pinker and Jonathan Haidt

198. Enlightenment and the Righteous Mind | Steven Pinker and Jonathan Haidt

This episode was recorded on June 6th, 2021. Dr Peterson, Steven Pinker, and Jonathan Haidt sit down to discuss truth, how societies function, utopias, the role of religion, & more. Steven Pinker is a psychology professor at Harvard. He's the author of Enlightenment Now and The Blank Slate. His 12th book, "Rationality," is out now. Dr. Pinker has received many awards and often writes for The Guardian and The NY Times. Jonathan Haidt is a social psychologist at NYU Stern. His research focuses on the intuitive foundations of morality across cultures. He's the author of The Righteous Mind and The Coddling of the American Mind. His next book, "Three Stories about Capitalism," is expected by 2022. Follow Steven's Twitter: https://twitter.com/sapinker Read Steven Pinker's book: https://stevenpinker.com/publications/rationality-what-it-why-it-seems-so-scarce-and-why-it-matters Find more Jonathan Haidt here: https://www.thecoddling.com/ Read Jonathan's book: https://www.amazon.com/Coddling-American-Mind-Intentions-Generation/dp/0735224919 Jonathan's most recent essay: https://www.persuasion.community/p/haidt-monomania-is-illiberal-and ____ [0:00] Intro [00:18] Jordan introduces guests Dr. Stephen Pinker and Dr. Jonathan Haidt [02:47] Catching up with the recent research and endeavors of Jonathan Haidt. Elaborating on the framework of moralism versus true and false when viewing the world [07:00] How cognitive biases lead to a more pessimistic view of the world [10:30] The problems with the idea of utopia and its beneficial uses when properly inserted into a society's belief (religious) structure [18:00] Examining the role group religions play in bringing people together [24:30] Jordan highlights the role he believes Christianity had in turning people's attention to the evil within us all [29:30] Reflections on Enlightenment Now. How do you engage people towards a higher set of goals without religion as a backbone? [38:00] Is the world we live in a new frontier based on the expanding influence of the internet and social media on individuals' decision-making? [48:00] Discussion on the dangers posed by the new world to the endurance of liberal democracies [56:00] Finding truth in the post-2012 social media revolution [1:06:00] The rate of change in modern life [1:07:00] The Righteous Mind, Haidt's interpretation of the religious instinct/impulse and why he gets a positive reaction from religious crowds [1:06:00] Saying goodbye to Dr. Pinker due to time constraints [1:17:30] The human ability for imitation through learning or exploring [1:25:30] Religion as a social function? Or an inherent impulse inside us all to find higher states? [1:29:30] Comparing views on the central uniting principle of groups, societies, or human beings for that matter [1:33:00] Is the extreme claim that power is the central driving factor of western European civilization grounded in reality? [1:37:52] Is having a common purpose or shared beliefs a more powerful way of bringing people together? [1:45:00] Recounting Haidt's research on disgust in both humans and animals [1:52:00] Exploring any correlation to disgust levels and political beliefs/alliance [02:02:30] Wrapping up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The Great Sacrifice: Abraham and Isaac

The Great Sacrifice: Abraham and Isaac

Lecture 12 in the Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories series In this, the final lecture of the Summer 2017 12-part series The Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories, we encounter, first, Hagar's banishment to the desert with Ishmael and then the demand made by God to Abraham for the sacrifice of Isaac. To sacrifice now is to gain later: perhaps the greatest of human discoveries. What, then, should best be sacrificed? And what might be the greatest gain? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

7 Syys 20172h 41min

Sodom and Gomorrah

Sodom and Gomorrah

Lecture 11 in the Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories series. Often interpreted as an injunction against homosexuality (particularly by those simultaneously claiming identity as Christians and opposed to that orientation), the stories of the angels who visit Abraham, bless him, and then rain destruction on Sodom and Gomorrah are more truly a warning against mistreatment of the stranger and impulsive, dysregulated, sybaritic conduct. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

4 Syys 20172h 39min

Abraham: Father of Nations

Abraham: Father of Nations

Lecture 10 in the Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories series. The Abrahamic adventures continue with this, the tenth lecture in my 12-part initial Biblical lecture series. Abraham's life is presented as a series of encapsulated narratives, punctuated by sacrifice, and the rekindling of his covenant with God. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

31 Elo 20172h 36min

The Call to Abraham

The Call to Abraham

Lecture 9 in my Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories series. In this lecture, I tell the story of Abraham, who heeds the call of God to leave what was familiar behind and to journey into unknown lands. The man portrayed in the Bible as the father of nations moves forward into the world. He encounters the worst of nature (famine), society (the tyranny of Egypt) and the envy of the powerful, who desire his wife. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

25 Elo 20172h 43min

The Phenomenology of the Divine

The Phenomenology of the Divine

Lecture 8 in the Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories series. In the next series of stories, the Biblical patriarch Abram (later: Abraham) enters into a covenant with God. The history of Israel proper begins with these stories. Abram heeds the call to adventure, journeys courageously away from his country and family into the foreign and unknown, encounters the disasters of nature and the tyranny of mankind and maintains his relationship with the God who has sent him forth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

22 Elo 20173h 12min

Walking With God: Noah and the Flood

Walking With God: Noah and the Flood

Lecture 7 in the Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories Lecture Series. Life at the individual and the societal level is punctuated by crisis and catastrophe. This stark truth finds its narrative representation in the widely-distributed universal motif of the flood. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

19 Elo 20172h 38min

The Psychology of the Flood

The Psychology of the Flood

Lecture 6 in my Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories lecture series The story of Noah and the Ark is next in the Genesis sequence. This is a more elaborated tale than the initial creation account, or the story of Adam and Eve or Cain and Abel. However, it cannot be understood in its true depth without some investigation into what the motif of the flood means, psychologically, and an analysis of how that motif is informed by the order/chaos dichotomy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

19 Heinä 20172h 44min

Cain and Abel: The Hostile Brothers

Cain and Abel: The Hostile Brothers

Lecture 5 in my Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories lecture series The account of Cain and Abel is remarkable for its unique combination of brevity and depth. In a few short sentences, it outlines two diametrically opposed modes of being -- both responses to the emergence of self-consciousness and the knowledge of good and evil detailed in story of Adam and Eve. Cain's mode of being -- resentful, arrogant and murderous -- arises because his sacrifices are rejected by God. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

4 Heinä 20172h 38min

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