The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast28 Maalis 2022

239. ANTIFA: The Rise of the Violent Left | Andy Ngo

This episode was recorded on November 8th, 2021 Andy Ngo is an independent journalist and photographer who lives under constant threats for his reporting and expertise on American Antifa and the militant far-left. He has testified before the U.S. Congress, appeared on countless TV shows, radio programs, and podcasts, and has been featured in the Wall Street Journal, New York Post, Newsweek, Fox News, National Review, and more. Andy is currently the editor-at-large at the Post Millennial. In this episode, I discuss Andy’s experiences with Antifa, race riots, autonomous zones, and the ‘summer of love’ in Seattle. We also exchanged thoughts on the psychology of mob violence, journalistic integrity, dealing with criticism, using people for political ends, attempts to destabilize the police, and lots more. Check out Ngo’s new book https://www.amazon.com/Unmasked-Antifas-Radical-Destroy-Democracy/dp/154605958X/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1643921778&sr=1-2 Take the ‘Understand Myself’ personality questionnaire https://understandmyself.com ___________ Chapters ___________ [00:00] Jordan introduces Andy Ngo [01:10] When Jordan & Andy first met and Jordan's imaginary enemies [02:08] Race riots and the existence of Antifa [04:19] Andy Ngo's experience with Antifa [07:58] The problem with conceptualizing Antifa [14:29] What motivates legacy media to minimize Antifa? [16:08] Was there a time Andy ever thought the stakes were high enough he violated his journalistic integrity? [19:44] How does Andy know he's not exaggerating the threat? [20:53] "They believe that no act they commit can go too far." AN [21:05] "Imagine that you are so virtuous in your pursuits that you are entitled to do anything to anyone whenever you want." JBP [22:19] "It's this moral license that goes along with this claim of virtue that really scares the hell out of, and it's also the fact that you can instantly demonize your enemies because if you're so virtuous that everything is justified, then anyone who opposes you is virtually Satan themselves." JBP [22:43] Story of a Minnesota mob kicking someone's teeth in [25:55] The Psychology of mob violence [27:17] How does he know he's not an exaggerating threat [31:18] Destabilizing the police [31:49] Is it helpful to categorize radicals either left or right? [36:41] The "summer of love" in Seattle [41:07] The gang members who came out at night [41:25] Stories of the autonomous zones [47:04] Instrumentality and using people to achieve a goal [48:04] "We've got to get rid of this idea that we can use people for an end; I don't care what the damn end is." [48:32] How destabilized have these cities become because of this? [51:19] The Minnesota Freedom Fund [52:58] Criticisms of Andy Ngo [54:34] How he knows the Minnesota Freedom Fund wants to abolish the criminal justice system, what are they doing wrong by bailing these people out, and how he knows it linked to an ideology. [56:57] "The system gets sloppy and self-congratulatory as we move toward statements like, the system is broken." [58:21] What do we do about the large incrimination of Americans, including a disproportionate number of them African Americans? [01:03:05] Wading through the accusations of the freedom fund being far left and Andy being far-right [01:04:33] James O'Keefe and Project Veritas [01:06:32] Andy's connection to Portland's militant right-wing and far-right-wing groups. [01:12:38] How many times he's been beaten up and why he kept going on. [01:18:52] Minnesota Freedom Fund cont. Who are they getting out on bail, and why do they think it's a good idea? [01:24:08] Jordan refers to a part of Andy's book that addresses a comment made by Kamala Harris Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Ben Shapiro

See www.jordanbpeterson.com/events Shapiro discussion starts at about 4:20 if you want to skip the tour information. This is an alternate posting of Ben Shapiro's May 6 premiere Sunday Special discussion with me (https://bit.ly/2I4czoU). Ben and I had a very intense discussion about the nesting of human perception and cognition in the mythic world - a better discussion, I think, than I've had with anyone. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

14 Touko 20181h 6min

Warren Farrell - The Absolute Necessity of Fathers

I came across Dr. Warren Farrell's work a few years ago, when I read Why Men Earn More(https://amzn.to/2HX3Epj), a careful study of the many reasons for the existence of the "gender pay gap," attributed by ideologues of the identity-politics persuasion to systemic patriarchal prejudice and oppression. Farrell has recently published another book, The Boy Crisis (https://amzn.to/2wnApuy) with Dr. John Gray. We spent an intense 90 minutes discussing the crucial role played by fathers in child development. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

13 Touko 20181h 41min

April 2018 Q & A

Every month, I answer questions from the generous people who support me on Patreon. This is the Patreon Q & A from April 2018. 1. 2:52 : Free will; Sam Harris's opinions on free will 2. 16:37 : Chaos vs. order 3. 31:24 : Gay couples raising children 4. 35:56 : Distinguishing reality from unconscious projection 5. 41:28 : How to combat foggy thinking while working/writing 6. 47:24 : How past experiences shape our free will (see q. 1) 7. 48:12 : The proper role of a therapist Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

8 Touko 20182h 56min

Australia's John Anderson & Dr. Jordan B Peterson: In Conversation

I was in Australia in mid-March of 2018, speaking in Sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne. While I was there, I had the privilege of speaking to former Deputy Prime Minister John Anderson. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

26 Huhti 20181h 29min

Lafayette College - The Mill Series

A lecture and Q & A from my appearance at Lafayette College on March 29th, 2018, hosted and sponsored by The Mill Series. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

20 Huhti 20184h 26min

Jordan Peterson's Rules for Life with Richard Fidler

From Dr. Peterson's appearance on Conversations with Richard Fidler from March 14th, 2018. Richard Fidler is an Australian ABC radio presenter, and writer, best known for his hour-long interview program, Conversations with Richard Fidler. The program is ABC Radio's most popular podcast, downloaded more than 3 million times per month. It features local and international guests from all walks of life, engaging in in-depth interviews. Original Program: http://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/conver Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2 Huhti 201855min

Message to the school shooters: past, present and future

I wrote in some detail and with some depth about motivation for the mass slaughter of innocents in my new book, 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos. Because of what happened all-too-recently and brutally in Parkland -- because of what keeps happening -- I thought I would read the relevant chapter (Rule 6: Put your house in perfect order before you criticize the world) and release it on YouTube and as a Podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

12 Maalis 201840min

The Master and His Emissary: Dr. Iain McGilchrist

While in the UK, recently, I had a chance to sit down for an all-too-short half-hour with Dr. Iain McGilchrist, author of The Master and His Emissary (description below). Our conversation was taped by Perspectiva (http://bit.ly/2EOCiU0), who described it as follows: "An extraordinary half-hour conversation about the brain, chaos, order, freedom, evil, mythology, being, and becoming between two of the leading thinkers of our time." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

20 Helmi 201833min

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