189. Sander Van Gelderen, CMO, Effectory - Why MQLs Aren’t Enough and How ABX Is Closing the Gap

189. Sander Van Gelderen, CMO, Effectory - Why MQLs Aren’t Enough and How ABX Is Closing the Gap

In this episode, we’re joined by Sander van Gelderen, CMO at Effectory, an employee listening solution platform helping organizations measure and improve engagement, enablement, and productivity at scale, serving 700+ recurring customers across the Benelux, DACH, and now the Nordics.

We spoke with Sander about how Effectory transformed from a project-based consultancy into a recurring revenue SaaS business and how his team is reshaping their go-to-market motion through Account-Based Experience (ABX). The goal? Closing the gap between marketing and sales, reducing waste, and targeting only the accounts truly in-market.

Here are some of the key questions we address:

  • What is ABX and how does it differ from ABM in practice?

  • How do you unify marketing and sales targeting to remove friction?

  • What were the warning signs that the traditional MQL model wasn’t working?

  • How do you implement ABX without losing velocity or your team’s trust?

  • What process and tech changes are required to make ABX work?

  • How should marketing compensation evolve in an ABX world?

  • What are the real trade-offs and pitfalls no one talks about?

🎧 Tune in to hear how Sander and his team are aligning people, process, and technology, proving that better targeting isn’t just possible, it’s essential for sustainable growth.

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202. Youssef Hounat, Head of Product, ComplianceWise - From Search Tool to Teammate: How Product Teams Should Really Use AI

202. Youssef Hounat, Head of Product, ComplianceWise - From Search Tool to Teammate: How Product Teams Should Really Use AI

In this episode, we’re joined by Youssef Hounat, product leader, ex-auditor, and (unexpectedly) freestyle-rap-ready builder of tools for accountants. He went from training at Ernst & Young to helping ...

18 Joulu 202549min

201. Jeppe Schytte-Hansen, CEO, Omnidocs - Why 1+1 = 1.8 in M&A (Until It Suddenly Becomes 3)

201. Jeppe Schytte-Hansen, CEO, Omnidocs - Why 1+1 = 1.8 in M&A (Until It Suddenly Becomes 3)

In this episode, we’re joined by Jeppe Schytte-Hansen, CEO and Co-founder of Omnidocs, a SaaS company that’s moving fast: €22M+ in revenue, 1,500 customers, 155 employees, and four acquisitions in the...

18 Marras 202554min

200. Fabian Q. Veit, CEO, Make - 15× Revenue, 7× Team, 100K+ Paying Users: Inside Make.com’s Hypergrowth!

200. Fabian Q. Veit, CEO, Make - 15× Revenue, 7× Team, 100K+ Paying Users: Inside Make.com’s Hypergrowth!

In this episode, we sit down with Fabian Veit, CEO of Make.com, to talk about what it really takes to scale not just one but two hyperscale SaaS companies - first in a classic enterprise sales-led mot...

11 Marras 202558min

199. Pieter Boon, Co-founder, ImpactPilot - From “Check-Ins” to Impact: How Google’s Playbook Is Transforming CS in B2B SaaS!

199. Pieter Boon, Co-founder, ImpactPilot - From “Check-Ins” to Impact: How Google’s Playbook Is Transforming CS in B2B SaaS!

In this episode, we’re joined by Pieter Boon, Co-founder at ImpactPilot, the customer success intelligence platform built for HubSpot. Pieter shares how he’s helping SaaS companies turn their CS orgs ...

4 Marras 202541min

198. Jakob Lilholm, Co-founder & CEO, Formalize - The S-Curve Bet: How to time product #2 before product #1 peaks?

198. Jakob Lilholm, Co-founder & CEO, Formalize - The S-Curve Bet: How to time product #2 before product #1 peaks?

In this episode, we’re joined by Jakob Lilholm, Co-founder & CEO at Formalize, the Danish-based compliance SaaS that went from a single-point whistleblowing tool to a multi-product GRC platform used b...

28 Loka 202549min

197. Rav Dhaliwal, Investor and Limited Partner, Crane - CS Meets Revenue: AI, Agents, and the New Customer Success

197. Rav Dhaliwal, Investor and Limited Partner, Crane - CS Meets Revenue: AI, Agents, and the New Customer Success

In this episode, we’re joined by Rav Dhaliwal, recovering software exec turned early-stage VC at Crane. A longtime CS leader and board-level advisor, Rav breaks down how AI is reshaping Customer Succe...

21 Loka 202546min

196. Ines Lourenço, VP of Product Growth, Usercentrics. Growth = Product Distribution: How Usercentrics Hit €100M ARR with Activation-First Pods

196. Ines Lourenço, VP of Product Growth, Usercentrics. Growth = Product Distribution: How Usercentrics Hit €100M ARR with Activation-First Pods

In this episode, we’re joined by Inês Lourenco, VP of Growth at Usercentrics, the privacy-led MarTech company that is powering consent on 2M+ websites & apps across 200 countries for 600k customers.  ...

15 Loka 202549min

195. Peter Sunna, CPO, Kognic – How We Win: Why Kognic’s CPO Ditched their Roadmap for a Strategy That Actually Aligns Teams

195. Peter Sunna, CPO, Kognic – How We Win: Why Kognic’s CPO Ditched their Roadmap for a Strategy That Actually Aligns Teams

In this episode, we’re joined by Peter Sunna (ex-Contentful, Commercetools), now leading product at Kognic, an annotation platform that helps cars “see” via camera & LiDAR for ADAS and autonomous driv...

9 Loka 202552min

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