New Identity Blueprint for a Future with Cloud & AI
Cloud Security Podcast22 Elo 2025

New Identity Blueprint for a Future with Cloud & AI

Identity is the root cause of over 70% of all security incidents, yet many organizations still rely on fundamentally flawed authentication methods. In this episode, Jasson Casey, CEO and co-founder of Beyond Identity, explains why even common forms of MFA are insufficient and why any system that relies on a "secret moving" is vulnerable to attack.

The conversation dives deep into the architectural shift needed to truly secure identity: moving from probabilistic tools to deterministic proof. Jasson breaks down how to leverage the hardware-backed secure enclaves (like TPMs and the Secure Enclave) that already exist in our devices to create un-phishable, device-bound credentials that can't be stolen or copied.

We also explore how this approach provides a necessary defense against the next wave of AI-enabled threats, including deepfakes and hyper-realistic social engineering attacks that will make it nearly impossible for humans to spot the difference.


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(00:00) Introduction(02:10) Who is Jasson Casey?(04:00) What is the 2025 Version of IAM?(07:15) Why Hasn't The Identity Problem Been Solved?(08:00) The Fundamental Flaw: Relying on Secrets That Move(10:00) The Solution: Un-phishable, Hardware-Backed Identity(12:15) Why Your Current MFA is Insufficient and Easily Exploited(14:42) The Apple Pay Analogy: How Secure Identity Already Works in Your Pocket(18:58) The "Aha!" Moment: Reducing Help Desk & SOC Workload(25:25) The AI Adversary: How Deepfakes Will Break Authentication(30:00) The Answer to AI Threats: Cryptographically Attested, Device-Bound Proof(32:15) Challenges of Adopting a New World of Identity(34:30) Beyond Human Identity: Securing Workloads, Drones & IoT(36:20) Deterministic vs. Probabilistic: A New Blueprint for Security(45:20) Final Questions: Drones, Cooking, and Tex-Mex


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