#479 – Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

Andrew Callaghan is the host of Channel 5 on YouTube, where he does street interviews with fascinating humans at the edges of society, the so-called vagrants, vagabonds, runaways, outlaws, from QAnon adherents to Phish heads to O Block residents and much more. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – ShipStation: https://shipstation.com/lex and use code LEX to get 60-day free trial – BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off – LMNT: https://drinkLMNT.com/lex to get free sample pack – MasterClass: https://masterclass.com/lexpod to get 15% off – AG1: https://drinkag1.com/lex to get 1 month supply of fish oil Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/andrew-callaghan-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Channel 5 with Andrew Callaghan: https://www.youtube.com/channel5YouTube Andrew’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/andreww.me Andrew’s Website: https://andrew-callaghan.com/ Andrew’s Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/channel5 This Place Rules: https://www.hbo.com/movies/this-place-rules Books Mentioned: On the Road: https://amzn.to/4aLPLHi Siddhartha: https://amzn.to/49rthKz PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (08:53) – Walmart (10:24) – Early life (29:14) – Hitchhiking (40:49) – Couch surfing (49:50) – Quarter Confessions (1:07:33) – Burning Man (1:22:44) – Protests (1:28:17) – Jon Stewart (1:31:13) – Fame (1:44:31) – Jan 6 (1:48:15) – QAnon (1:54:00) – Alex Jones (2:10:52) – Politics (2:20:29) – Response to allegations (2:37:28) – Channel 5 (2:43:04) – Rap (2:44:51) – O Block (2:48:47) – Crip Mac (2:51:59) – Aliens

13 Huhti 20242h 59min

Bassem Youssef is an Egyptian-American comedian & satirist, referred to as the Jon Stewart of the Arab World. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – AG1: https://drinkag1.com/lex to get 1 month supply of fish oil – Shopify: https://shopify.com/lex to get $1 per month trial – Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings – LMNT: https://drinkLMNT.com/lex to get free sample pack Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/bassem-youssef-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Bassem’s X: https://x.com/Byoussef Bassem’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/bassem Bassem’s Facebook: https://facebook.com/bassemyousseftv Bassem’s Website: https://bassemyoussef.xyz PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (06:30) – Oct 7 (36:59) – Two-state solution (52:37) – Holocaust (1:00:24) – 1948 (1:09:17) – Egypt (1:23:39) – Jon Stewart (1:25:51) – Going viral during the Arab Spring (1:49:55) – Arabic vs English (2:02:18) – Sam Harris and Jihad (2:07:25) – Religion (2:26:37) – TikTok (2:31:10) – Joe Rogan (2:33:07) – Joe Biden (2:37:33) – Putin (2:39:21) – War (2:44:17) – Hope

5 Huhti 20242h 48min

Tulsi Gabbard is a politician, veteran, and author of For Love of Country. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – Riverside: https://creators.riverside.fm/LEX and use code LEX to get 30% off – ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free – NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour – Notion: https://notion.com/lex Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/tulsi-gabbard-transcript EPISODE LINKS: For Love of Country (book): https://amzn.to/3VLlofM Tulsi’s X: https://x.com/tulsigabbard Tulsi’s YouTube: https://youtube.com/@TulsiGabbard Tulsi’s Podcast: https://youtube.com/@TheTulsiGabbardShow Tulsi’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/tulsigabbard Tulsi’s Facebook: https://facebook.com/TulsiGabbard Tulsi’s Website: https://tulsigabbard.com/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (07:14) – War in Iraq (15:00) – Battle injuries and PTSD (22:10) – War on terrorism (30:51) – War in Gaza (34:52) – War in Ukraine (38:38) – Syria (46:20) – Warmongers (55:40) – Nuclear war (1:11:08) – TikTok ban (1:23:13) – Bernie Sanders (1:28:08) – Politics (1:46:59) – Personal attacks (1:49:07) – God

2 Huhti 20241h 56min

Mark Cuban is a businessman, investor, star of TV series Shark Tank, long-time principal owner of Dallas Mavericks, and founder of Cost Plus Drugs. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – Listening: https://listening.com/lex and use code LEX to get one month free – Cloaked: https://cloaked.com/lex and use code LexPod to get 25% off – Notion: https://notion.com/lex – Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings – Shopify: https://shopify.com/lex to get $1 per month trial Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/mark-cuban-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Mark’s X: https://twitter.com/mcuban Mark’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/mcuban Cost Plus Drugs: https://costplusdrugs.com Shark Tank: https://abc.com/shows/shark-tank Dallas Mavericks: https://www.mavs.com PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (11:10) – Entrepreneurship (26:03) – Shark Tank (36:29) – How Mark made first billion (1:02:39) – Dallas Mavericks (1:08:05) – DEI debate (1:43:58) – Trump vs Biden (1:46:20) – Immigration (1:55:53) – Drugs and Big Pharma (2:11:53) – AI (2:16:05) – Advice for young people

29 Maalis 20242h 23min

Dana White is the CEO and president of the UFC. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – LMNT: https://drinkLMNT.com/lex to get free sample pack – Notion: https://notion.com/lex – AG1: https://drinkag1.com/lex to get 1 month supply of fish oil – InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/dana-white-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Dana’s X: https://x.com/danawhite Dana’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/danawhite Dana’s Facebook: https://facebook.com/danawhite UFC’s YouTube: https://youtube.com/@UFC UFC’s Website: https://ufc.com/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (06:31) – Mike Tyson and early days of fighting (17:10) – Jiu jitsu (23:14) – Origin of UFC (37:25) – Joe Rogan (43:31) – Lorenzo Fertitta (45:58) – Great fighters (49:55) – Khabib vs Conor (53:01) – Jon Jones (56:03) – Conor McGregor (1:01:05) – Trump (1:06:44) – Elon vs Zuck (1:08:04) – Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul (1:10:52) – Forrest Griffin vs Stephan Bonnar (1:18:06) – Gambling (1:33:08) – Mortality

25 Maalis 20241h 36min

Annie Jacobsen is an investigative journalist and author of “Nuclear War: A Scenario” and many other books on war, weapons, government secrecy, and national security. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – HiddenLayer: https://hiddenlayer.com/lex – BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off – Policygenius: https://policygenius.com/lex – NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/annie-jacobsen-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Nuclear War: A Scenario (book): https://amzn.to/3THZHfr Annie’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/anniejacobsen Annie’s Website: https://anniejacobsen.com/ Annie’s Books: https://amzn.to/3TGWyMJ Annie’s Books (audio): https://adbl.co/49ZnI7c PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (07:37) – Nuclear war (12:21) – Launch procedure (18:00) – Deterrence (21:34) – Tactical nukes (30:59) – Nuclear submarines (33:59) – Nuclear missiles (41:10) – Nuclear football (50:17) – Missile interceptor system (54:34) – North Korea (1:01:10) – Nuclear war scenarios (1:10:02) – Warmongers (1:14:31) – President’s cognitive ability (1:20:43) – Refusing orders (1:28:41) – Russia and Putin (1:33:48) – Cyberattack (1:35:09) – Ground zero of nuclear war (1:39:48) – Surviving nuclear war (1:44:06) – Nuclear winter (1:54:29) – Alien civilizations (2:00:04) – Extrasensory perception (2:13:50) – Area 51 (2:17:48) – UFOs and aliens (2:28:15) – Roswell incident (2:34:55) – CIA assassinations (2:53:47) – Navalny (2:56:12) – KGB (3:02:48) – Hitler and the atomic bomb (3:06:52) – War and human nature (3:10:17) – Hope

22 Maalis 20243h 12min

Sam Altman is the CEO of OpenAI, the company behind GPT-4, ChatGPT, Sora, and many other state-of-the-art AI technologies. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – Cloaked: https://cloaked.com/lex and use code LexPod to get 25% off – Shopify: https://shopify.com/lex to get $1 per month trial – BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off – ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/sam-altman-2-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Sam’s X: https://x.com/sama Sam’s Blog: https://blog.samaltman.com/ OpenAI’s X: https://x.com/OpenAI OpenAI’s Website: https://openai.com ChatGPT Website: https://chat.openai.com/ Sora Website: https://openai.com/sora GPT-4 Website: https://openai.com/research/gpt-4 PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (07:51) – OpenAI board saga (25:17) – Ilya Sutskever (31:26) – Elon Musk lawsuit (41:18) – Sora (51:09) – GPT-4 (1:02:18) – Memory & privacy (1:09:22) – Q* (1:12:58) – GPT-5 (1:16:13) – $7 trillion of compute (1:24:22) – Google and Gemini (1:35:26) – Leap to GPT-5 (1:39:10) – AGI (1:57:44) – Aliens

18 Maalis 20242h 2min

Norman Finkelstein and Benny Morris are historians. Mouin Rabbani is a Middle East analyst. Steven Bonnell (aka Destiny) is a political livestreamer. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free – Babbel: https://babbel.com/lexpod and use code Lexpod to get 55% off – Policygenius: https://policygenius.com/lex – Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/israel-palestine-debate-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Mouin’s X: https://x.com/MouinRabbani Mouin’s Podcast: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLkT5TSHWFSYKY_6vrNn_vZAmfunA_s9g – Benny’s Books: https://amzn.to/3Vf7NNU – Norman’s X: https://x.com/normfinkelstein Norman’s Website: https://www.normanfinkelstein.com/ Norman’s Books: https://amzn.to/3IqouxU Knowing Too Much (excerpt): https://jumpshare.com/v/8EUbbP40Do44ITDfJUoR – Destiny’s YouTube: https://youtube.com/destiny Destiny’s X: https://x.com/TheOmniLiberal Destiny’s Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/ Destiny’s Website: https://destiny.gg – Norman and Mouin provided additional links to supplement the discussion. See them here: https://sites.google.com/view/israel-palestine-debate/home PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (12:11) – 1948 (1:10:43) – Partition (2:15:16) – October 7 (3:09:27) – Gaza (3:36:02) – Peace (4:40:47) – Hope for the future

14 Maalis 20245h 4min