Rex Heuermann's Burlap, Hair, and Pizza: The Forensic Breaks That Nailed the Gilgo Suspect

Rex Heuermann's Burlap, Hair, and Pizza: The Forensic Breaks That Nailed the Gilgo Suspect

The DNA Breakthrough & What Comes Next Rex Heuermann's Burlap, Hair, and Pizza: The Forensic Breaks That Nailed the Gilgo Suspect

After years of dead ends, the case against Rex Heuermann broke open with a slice of pizza. Surveillance teams tailing him in 2023 collected a discarded crust, extracting DNA that matched hairs found on the burlap sacks wrapped around the Gilgo Beach victims. Not just his hair—familial matches tied back to his wife and daughter, consistent with the chaotic, unclean hoarder house investigators uncovered.

Forensic science has now caught up with cold cases. Whole-genome sequencing—a powerful new tool—can analyze even hairs without roots, building a near-complete profile. Defense lawyers fought to keep it out, calling it “untested.” But the court just ruled: it’s in. Jurors may not understand the science, but they’ll understand this: it’s precise, it’s definitive, and it ties Rex Heuermann to the crime scene.

We dig into what that means: how genome sequencing strengthens forensic cases, why it will likely become the new courtroom standard, and why Rex’s arguments about “new science” may backfire. And we ask: what about Asa? Did she know nothing, or was she so trauma-bonded and compartmentalized that denial became her survival? Her claim that “I still feel Rex is here” after the house raid shows a connection that goes beyond ordinary loyalty.

From DNA on pizza crust to notes in the basement, the walls are closing in. The trial date hasn’t been set, but with DNA admitted, the odds of Rex Heuermann ever walking free again are vanishing. This is the turn from cold case to courtroom reality—and it’s decades in the making.

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What Will We Learn from Rex Heuermann's Medical & Mental Evaluations?

What Will We Learn from Rex Heuermann's Medical & Mental Evaluations?

In the latest episode of the "Hidden Killers" podcast, Tony Brueski delves deep into the intricacies surrounding the case of Rex Heuermann, discussing the regular mental and medical evaluations being conducted and what they may mean in the larger context of the investigation. Bringing in psychotherapist and author Shavaun Scott, the conversation covers not only the prison evaluations but also Heuermann’s behavior and the allegations that loom large against him.    Given the murkiness surrounding the allegations against Heuermann, Brueski sought Scott’s expertise in explaining the purpose and implications of these evaluations. Scott hypothesized, “I think this will go in his official medical chart, and they're probably monitoring him for suicidality.” Highlighting the implications of a high-profile inmate like Heuermann potentially committing suicide while in custody, she cited the notorious Epstein case as an example of the challenges and responsibilities faced by those in charge.    Yet, what about the potential psychological underpinnings that might guide Heuermann’s actions? With the emphasis on psychopathy and narcissism, the question arises: are such individuals less likely to self-harm due to their self-absorbed nature? “Each case needs to be looked at,” Scott emphasizes. The impulsivity of an act like suicide means that even those with pronounced narcissistic traits, such as Epstein, can quickly deteriorate under the right circumstances.    As Brueski further probed into Heuermann's behavioral patterns, especially regarding reports of his detailed discussions about the crime with women he dated, Scott recognized this as a "display" of his arrogance and narcissistic power. The audacity of openly discussing details of his crime could be a manifestation of his need to feel dominant and in control. Scott noted that some serial killers, as they age, might not feel the compulsion to commit crimes but instead might relive past experiences as a means of satisfaction.    Adding to the chilling narrative, there's an undertone suggesting that Heuermann’s crimes could potentially extend beyond the known cases, a detail that leaves more questions than answers. “Is it possible that he changed his mo[de]? Are there bodies in other places? … [W]hat we know now is just the tip of the iceberg and at some point he may, if he's convicted of these, disclose that yes, there were many more,” said Scott.   In a climate where every detail can tilt the scale in the court of public opinion, the regular evaluations of Heuermann’s mental state behind bars not only act as precautionary measures but could also potentially play a significant role in the courtroom. Whether these evaluations will testify for or against him remains yet to be seen. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

31 Elo 20234min

How Connected Was James Burke to Rex Heuermann?

How Connected Was James Burke to Rex Heuermann?

In a recent episode of the podcast "Hidden Killers," Tony Brueski delved deep into the murky waters of police corruption and unsolved crimes, specifically focusing on former Suffolk County Police Chief James Burke. Brueski's special guest was Susan Constantine, a recognized body language expert and trial consultant. Their discussion centered on the halted progress in the case against Rex Heuermann and the involvement of James Burke.    Burke, who was already incarcerated for unrelated crimes and corruption, is now facing allegations of engaging with sex workers. Brueski raised an alarming concern, questioning the extent to which Burke’s tenure as the chief may have hindered investigations, particularly the Gilgo Beach killer case. Commenting on the hidden layers of crime networks, Constantine remarked, “You kind of wonder what is underground that we're not aware of. There's something bigger than what sometimes we see on the surface and there is police corruption."    Delving further into the clandestine nature of such cases, Constantine drew parallels with her experience as an expert consultant in the Jeffrey Epstein case. “When you think about just that whole underground thing there... there's a lot going on that I don't know that we all know everything," she shared, emphasizing that such cover-ups often have connections that extend beyond what meets the eye. The question that looms large is whether Burke’s alleged involvement with sex workers was a mere personal vice, or if it masked deeper connections and potential cover-ups, potentially involving Heuermann and other suspects linked to a spree of unsolved murders.    Drawing a parallel with the convoluted intricacies of the Jeffrey Epstein case, Brueski expressed the challenge of accepting the potential involvement of high-profile individuals in such clandestine affairs. "I think the same thing kind of goes for something like this where you have faith in your police chief, you have faith in the people who are supposed to be protecting and serving," he said, emphasizing the trust deficit that incidents like these create in the community.    Constantine emphasized the hidden layers of corruption that often go unnoticed. She stressed that certain individuals often position themselves strategically in high offices to exert control and influence. “The individuals that are in charge of those investigating... have strategically put themselves in high positions. So they can block it," she revealed.    One of the more unsettling revelations from Constantine alluded to a local case she’s privy to. “I have knowledge of a psychologist... that becomes the head of the department of Children and Families being the psychologist where everybody goes to for the courts approved as being the court-appointed," she disclosed. Such strategic placements allow these individuals to control narratives, evidence, and outcomes, ensuring their secrets remain buried.    Brueski and Constantine further theorized how individuals, like Rex in this situation, might strategize their moves. If one wanted to suppress information or control what comes out, they would likely position themselves in influential places, form connections with decision-makers, and ensure that every step taken by investigators or opponents has to go through them. It’s a haunting game of chess, with real lives at stake.    Towards the end of their conversation, both Brueski and Constantine expressed apprehension about the future findings in the case against Burke and his potential connections. The discussion painted a grim picture of the depths of corruption and how deep-seated networks can influence and control criminal investigations. With the lines between protectors and perpetrators increasingly blurred, one can only wonder: how many more hidden killers are lurking in the shadows? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

31 Elo 20238min

Rex Heuerman Case: Limited Consequences For Incompetent Police Work?

Rex Heuerman Case: Limited Consequences For Incompetent Police Work?

In a recent episode of the "Hidden Killers" podcast, host Tony Brueski and former Federal prosecutor Neama Rahmani discuss the shocking story of Rex Heuermann and the potential complicity of former Suffolk County Police Chief, James Burke, in ignoring crucial evidence that could have helped solve several murders of sex workers.    Burke has recently been arrested for soliciting sex workers and is accused of neglecting his duties as Police Chief, as numerous murders of sex workers happened under his watch. Brueski and Rahmani discuss the lack of action taken despite evidence being brought to Burke's attention. Rahmani expresses his disappointment with the situation, "You know, sex with prostitutes in his car, soliciting sex just recently, covering up, beating up individuals, right? So, you know, maybe he's just focused on his own personal sexual activities to spend time on the case."    The conversation touches upon the widespread distrust of law enforcement and the potential legal ramifications for Burke and others who may have been complicit in the failure to pursue leads in this case. Rahmani explains that it is difficult to hold police officers civilly liable for inaction due to legal protections like qualified immunity. He notes, however, that this is a hot button political issue, especially after the George Floyd incident, "this notion of qualified immunity, right? Yeah. For police officers and you know, there are a lot of folks in this country that they don't like plaintiff's lawyers, civil rights lawyers going after police officers."    The episode highlights the need for reform within law enforcement, as it is difficult to hold officers accountable for their actions or inactions due to strong police union protections and the legal principle of qualified immunity. Rahmani laments the power of police unions, "It's very hard to fire a police officer. You know, they have significant procedural due process. Right. Substantive due process rights."    Brueski and Rahmani's conversation reflects the broader national conversation about the need for police reform and accountability. The case of Rex Heuermann and James Burke serves as a stark reminder of the potential consequences of failing to hold law enforcement officials accountable for their actions or lack thereof.    Despite the dark nature of the topic, the "Hidden Killers" podcast sheds light on the importance of addressing these issues and the need for systemic change within the law enforcement and judicial systems. The podcast serves as a critical platform for discussing the complexities and challenges associated with holding law enforcement officials accountable and the broader implications for public trust and safety. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

30 Elo 20236min

Holding Former Suffolk Police Chief Accountable For Failure To Act On Gilgo Beach Killer

Holding Former Suffolk Police Chief Accountable For Failure To Act On Gilgo Beach Killer

The "Hidden Killers" podcast, hosted by Tony Brueski, recently hosted Defense Attorney Bob Motta to dissect the alleged oversights and potential wrongdoings of former police Chief James Burke. Burke held office during a critical time while Rex Heuermann, a potential serial killer, was on the loose, and their discussion raises several concerning questions about the state of policing and investigations.    Brueski began by highlighting Burke's oversight: "He had the vehicle, we had the description, which would've narrowed down to a very small percentage of the population, but nothing was really done." Motta drew parallels with notorious serial killer Gacy, emphasizing how societal views, particularly towards marginalized groups, might influence the rigor of police investigations. "I think that, you know, it's strikingly similar to what went on with Gacy. [...] Burke paid it no mind because they were sex workers, and he didn't value human life based on what they did for a living," Motta stated.    Reflecting on the recent arrest of Heuermann for solicitation, Brueski mentioned the chilling revelation that much of the evidence connecting him to the crimes, except the DNA match from a cross, had been available for over a decade. Motta responded passionately, saying, "That green first generation avalanche and the description of the ogre, was right there. And that's probable cause. They would've found him; the case would've been solved."    The conversation took an even darker turn as Motta delved into the possible legal implications for the state or local government. He posed the harrowing question: could the direct result of Burke's alleged refusal to investigate lead to the discovery of more victims? It's a prospect that could open a Pandora's box of legal and ethical issues for law enforcement agencies and communities.    Brueski pressed on a critical query: had a scenario like this been litigated before? Where law enforcement showed "willful ignorance" rather than just negligence? Motta acknowledged the rarity and complexity of such a case. "It's very difficult, Tony," Motta explained. He elaborated on the fine line between simple negligence and willful ignorance, pointing out the protective barrier of governmental immunity that often shields public agencies from lawsuits.    But Motta saw potential avenues for litigation, especially if there is concrete evidence of willful neglect. "If it's willful, it's different," he emphasized. The recent arrest of Burke could be pivotal in this regard, shedding light on systemic issues and potentially exposing a culture of negligence, especially towards marginalized communities.    The discussion ended with a speculative note on how the case could progress. If there's tangible evidence proving a lackadaisical attitude towards investigating because the victims were sex workers, it could indeed pave the way for legal action.    Both Brueski and Motta highlighted the need for accountability and a profound change in law enforcement's approach toward all victims, regardless of their backgrounds. As more details emerge, it's clear that the layers of this case may unravel deeper systemic issues within law enforcement and society at large. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

30 Elo 20235min

Will Rex Heuermann's New Found 'Religion' Help His Case?

Will Rex Heuermann's New Found 'Religion' Help His Case?

In a recent episode of "Hidden Killers" podcast, host Tony Brueski sat down with psychotherapist and author, Shavaun Scott, to dissect the curious behavior of Rex Heuermann, who is reportedly leaning towards religion while being incarcerated. The conversation, though centered around Heuermann, brought up a larger point - the frequency with which incarcerated individuals turn to religion, a phenomenon commonly termed as 'jailhouse religion'.    “We're talking right now about Rex Heuermann,” Tony began, and mentioned Heuermann's current living conditions, hinting at the psychological toll that may ensue from being in confinement. Of particular interest to Brueski was Heuermann’s reported wish to have religious services, specifically from the Roman Catholic Church, brought to him. Brueski stated, “...but he is of Roman Catholic descent, and we're told that someone from the Roman Catholic Church has come in.”    Addressing this, Scott revealed, “Jailhouse religion, I cannot tell you how common that is.” She further explained that even individuals with a history of serious crimes suddenly become intensely interested in spiritual matters when incarcerated. Comparing it to the sudden surge of faith among soldiers in war, she opined that it's a “human tendency to reach out to the supernatural for comfort when people are feeling a lot of stress.”    Scott's perspective is particularly enlightening as she suggests that this gravitation towards faith might not be as straightforward as it appears. While on the surface, it may look like a genuine search for redemption or spiritual solace, the reasons behind such a shift could be manifold. Some might be seeking a genuine connection, while others could be motivated by more ulterior motives.    But do these individuals, especially those accused or convicted of heinous crimes, perceive and adopt religion in the same manner as others? Tony posed an intriguing question: "Is it speaking to them differently? Does it play into their narcissism?" Scott's answer provided a window into the mind of such individuals. She speculated that for some, turning to religion could be a method of absolving responsibility. She explained, “If you believe you've been forgiven for whatever sin you've committed just by praying about it, you may gain a little bit of comfort from that.”    Another interesting angle was whether these inmates use their newfound faith as a strategic move during trials. Could showcasing a religious transformation affect jury sentiments? Brueski remarked, "It's definitely that... It looks good." Scott expanded on this idea, highlighting the instances where convicts engage in spiritual performances to attract and manipulate vulnerable individuals, especially women seeking relationships with 'bad boys'.    The conversation didn't limit itself to prisons. Tony drew parallels with businesses that wear their faith on their sleeves, possibly as a strategic move. “Where a business will add some sort of religious aspect to their signage or to their logo...,” he observed, indicating that this might not always stem from genuine faith, but rather an attempt to attract a certain clientele or project trustworthiness.    In concluding remarks, both Tony and Scott agreed on the manipulative nature of this phenomenon when not genuine. Scott summarized, “They know that's going to build trust and people will ask fewer questions if they believe that, 'oh, we're talking to a person of God,' so therefore, it gives this veneer of righteousness to them. So it's a pretty dirty manipulation when it's done that way.”    The episode, rich with insights from Scott, is a testament to the multifaceted nature of human behavior. Whether one believes in the authenticity of 'jailhouse religion' or sees it as a strategic move, the phenomenon undoubtedly presents an intriguing facet of the human psyche, begging further exploration. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

30 Elo 20236min

Why Did Police Chief Ignore Clear Evidence That Would Lead to Heuermann?

Why Did Police Chief Ignore Clear Evidence That Would Lead to Heuermann?

The investigations involving former Suffolk County Chief of Police, James Burke, have taken a labyrinthine turn, unveiling potential cover-ups, discrepancies, and many more layers than initially assumed. As the "Hidden Killers" podcast, hosted by Tony Brueski, delved deep into this mystery, many questions arose regarding Burke's role and responsibilities during his tenure, especially concerning the Rex Heman case.   Reflecting on the intricacies of this case, Brueski noted, "The layers of the onion continue to peel back." Evidence has emerged from various sources, shedding light on this intricate web. One particularly revealing piece is a documentary released on Hulu by TMZ. This piece included an interview with a friend of one of the victims, who vividly recalled his account to the Suffolk County Police, highlighting the victim's unsettling interaction with Erman. The friend described Erman as an "ogre-like character, overbearing, big", which perfectly matched the description of Heman. Yet, even with such an apparent lead, the authorities overlooked connecting Erman to the case nearly a decade ago.   Brueski raised a critical question that lingers in the minds of many: "Is there ever repercussions for things like that to someone like Burke who clearly was derelict in his job?" Robin Dreeke, retired FBI Special Agent, acknowledged the severity of the oversight but added, "Just because something's unethical doesn't mean it's illegal."   Dreeke also expressed concerns about potential legal recourse against Burke. Discussing the feasibility of prosecuting someone for neglecting their duty, Dreeke noted the challenges in distinguishing between unethical behavior and illegal activities. He observed, "It'd be really tough to do that." This line of thought emphasizes a recurrent theme - the blurring lines between ethical responsibilities and legal implications in such cases.   But the conversation took a darker turn when speculations arose about the other cases under Burke's purview. Dreeke mused, "What other cases, 100%. Now we know about Herman, there's new command in there that's reevaluating some of these cases." He highlighted the alarming number of bodies discovered on the beach, drawing attention to the fact that Heman was only connected to three or four, hinting at the possibility of more connections.   Drawing a line to Burke's recent arrest, Dreeke emphasized the unsettling nature of the police chief's frequentation of circles that included numerous sex workers. He suggested, "If you are the chief of police, you probably don't necessarily want to go in there and necessarily ruffle any feathers in that community," hinting at the possibility of Burke's involvement being more insidious than mere negligence.   Echoing this sentiment, Brueski concluded, "We might have just scratched the tip of that iceberg." The questions now arise - what did the Chief of Police know? When did he know it? And who else was involved?   As more details emerge, it becomes increasingly clear that all cases overseen by Burke during his tenure need thorough reexamination. The layers of this case might be peeling back, but as the podcast suggests, the heart of this mystery might be deeper and darker than anyone could have imagined. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

30 Elo 20234min

Sociopath ME Thompson On How Sociopath Rex Heuermann Functioned

Sociopath ME Thompson On How Sociopath Rex Heuermann Functioned

In a riveting conversation, Tony Brueski of the "Hidden Killers" podcast sat down with diagnosed psychopath and author, M.E. Thomas, for a discussion on the dark intricacies of a sociopathic mind.    M.E. Thomas, author of the compelling read "Confessions of a Sociopath, A Life Spent Hiding in Plain Sight," offers an unparalleled perspective on the mind of someone who can live without the typical boundaries of morality and empathy. In their discussion, Brueski sought to understand the perplexing case of Rex Heuermann, a seemingly average family man and architect, who stands accused of heinous nighttime crimes.    Discussing the mindset of someone like Heuermann, M.E. Thomas observed, "He probably has a very high ability to compartmentalize... He doesn't have maybe good integration of self." This ability to see life as 'two separate things' suggests a strong divide between public and private personas, allowing an individual to commit grave acts without internal conflict.    As the discussion continued, she provided deeper insights into the disorder. Unlike killers who might be haunted by their actions, Thomas believes Heuermann doesn't experience any conflict between his dual lives. His potential lack of emotional turmoil makes him distinct from other criminals. This distinction led Thomas to suspect a personality disorder, possibly Narcissistic or Antisocial.    According to Thomas, Heuermann's behavior displays a high level of compartmentalization that is typically beyond the reach of those without a personality disorder. For example, some individuals might grapple with the dichotomy of their actions, feeling a sense of guilt or remorse. But Heuermann, based on the allegations against him, doesn't appear to internally conflict with his crimes.    Delving into the nuances of personality disorders, Thomas explained how different disorders could influence an individual's perception of potential consequences. For instance, someone with an Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder might feel anxious about being caught. In contrast, a person with a Narcissistic Personality Disorder might feel invincible, believing they're smarter than law enforcement. For Heuermann, his alleged indifference to getting caught hints at a potential blend of narcissism and a Machiavellian attitude.    Reflecting on her own experience as a psychopath, Thomas detailed the advantages and challenges of compartmentalization. Such individuals, she explained, can easily adapt and mold themselves to situations due to the lack of a firmly anchored self-identity. While this malleability can be an advantage, it also presents challenges. Sharing personal information, even trivial facts, becomes a burden. Keeping up with the lies and maintaining consistency in one's narrative is a complex balancing act.    This revealing discussion provided a deep dive into the mind of someone who, by all external appearances, seems normal but might harbor dark secrets within. M.E. Thomas's insights are a valuable contribution to understanding the complicated world of sociopathy, shedding light on the often-hidden undercurrents of human psychology. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

29 Elo 202313min

Did Former Police Chief Enable Gilgo Beach Killer?

Did Former Police Chief Enable Gilgo Beach Killer?

In a recent episode of the "Hidden Killers" podcast, a shocking revelation has come to light concerning the investigation into suspected serial killer, Rex Heman. The discourse took a twist when the discussion pivoted to the arrest of former Chief of Police in Suffolk County, James Burke, apprehended for soliciting a sex worker in a park.    Burke's arrest raises serious questions given his tenure at the helm of the Suffolk County Police during the years Heman is believed to have been most active. Host Tony Brueski, who interviewed retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke, raised concerns about the potential influence or involvement of Burke and possibly other high-ranking officials in the very community being scrutinized. Brueski commented, "Nobody's looking at these things because maybe the police chief doesn't want any microscopes looking at him as well."   Dreeke shared his astonishment at the news, remarking, "Shocking and sad. Isn't it? When I read this, I was shocked and appalled like everyone else was."    A significant portion of the discussion centered around the puzzling fact that Burke actively blocked external agencies, including the FBI, from being involved in the case. Addressing the general misconception that the FBI usually overrides local authorities, Dreeke clarified that this rarely happens. He explained, "It depends on the statute, depends on whether it's a federal statute you're prosecuting or local. And this is a local case."    The crux of the matter lies in the relationship between the local police chiefs and the head of the FBI office. In ideal circumstances, both parties collaborate and pool their resources to further an investigation. Dreeke outlined this, stating, "Both parties go to each other and say, 'Hey, what can I do to assist you?'"    The Suffolk case, however, deviated from this norm. When the FBI offered its extensive resources to aid the investigation, including profilers, interviewers, and forensics, they were denied involvement. "Is that a red flag when the FBI is turned away from a local jurisdiction?" asked Brueski.    Dreeke then shed light on the underlying factors often influencing such decisions. The root of these obstructions often boils down to ego clashes, personality conflicts, and sometimes, unfortunately, individuals prioritizing their careers over the mission. "If you have a case agent or an investigator that is 100% about the mission and willing to sacrifice their career, maybe their reputation to battle their executive management to get things moving because they think something's wrong...you might be able to make a difference," Dreeke shared.    However, the contrary also holds. When individuals are career-oriented, often reluctant to ruffle feathers, investigations like that of Rex Heman suffer. For Dreeke, cases are as much about managing relationships and navigating egos as they are about pursuing the truth. He lamented, "Egos and vanity get involved in these things, unfortunately, and this is one of those cases where it totally undermined the investigation."    In light of these revelations, the case of Rex Heman and the involvement (or lack thereof) of multiple agencies will likely remain under public and media scrutiny. The arrest of James Burke further adds layers of complexity, demanding a comprehensive re-evaluation of the events and decisions that have shaped the investigation thus far. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

29 Elo 20236min

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