The Ultimate Dibber Dobber & The Bruce Willis Dementia Backlash

The Ultimate Dibber Dobber & The Bruce Willis Dementia Backlash

Leave it to Donald Trump to redefine international etiquette — this time as a dibber-dobber. Threatening to tattle on a reporter to Australia's PM Anthony Albanese, Trump turned political theatrics into a cross-border spectacle. Mia, Jessie and Amelia investigate this most unAustralian of crimes on today's show.

And, an update on Bruce Willis’ condition from his wife in her confronting new memoir that hits home for anyone touched by dementia. Jessie shares her personal experience and unpacks the backlash Emma Heming Willis is getting online for the decisions she's making on behalf of her celebrity husband.

Plus, a breast pump row. It may sound like something from another era — but it happened to Dr Elise Turner this week in Melbourne when the mum of twins was told to leave an airport lounge for daring to express milk for her babies. But there’s one crucial detail that most of us missed...

And, Births, Deaths & Marriages. Mia’s got a new segment and a lot to say. From celebrity babies to red carpet chaos, she’s tying it all together… loosely. Is it an excuse to (scurrilously) gossip about celebrities? Absolutely. Does she seamlessly segue into a controversial red carpet analysis? Of course she does.

We also reveal the 17 household habits that will clear mental clutter as much as they will your kitchen bench tops. Light and shade, friends. Light and shade.

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The Spectacle Of Zelenskyy & Oscars' Outcasts

The Spectacle Of Zelenskyy & Oscars' Outcasts

If you haven’t watched it, you’ve heard about it, if you haven’t heard about it, you felt it in the force on Saturday morning. Yes, we’re sitting down to unpack the viral moments from THAT oval office press conference, with US president Donald Trump, Vice President JD Vance and President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy. Plus, why everyone, from reality TV stars to beleaguered celebrities are “speaking their truth” right now. We're asking them to please... stop. And, it’s Oscars' Day. From the drama around the film Emilia Pérez, and why it's lead actress Karla Sofía Gascón ditched the red carpet, to whether or not The Brutalist deserves to win an Oscar... when they admit to using AI. We're unpacking the controversies that led us to this year's red carpet. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular What To Listen To Next: Listen to our latest episode: The New Things People Are Saying During Sex Listen: The Wicked Divorce In Superficial Detail Listen: The Money Pushover & A Woman Named Karen Listen: Ugly Female Friendships & A New Red Carpet Theory Listen: We're Desperate To Talk About 'The White Lotus' Season 3 Listen: The Sibling Estrangement Story We Can't Stop Thinking About Listen to MID: Rachel Griffiths Took A Mid Sabbatical From Everything Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. ENTER SUBSCRIBER GIVEAWAYS: Use code MMOLCRUISE for 20% off a yearly subscription. Mamamia wants to hear from you! Complete our survey to go in the running to win one of four $50 gift vouchers. What To Read: Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025 Read: All the best looks from the 2025 Oscars Red Carpet. Read: How do you sit down in these dresses? A very serious investigation. Read: The night Kieran Culkin met Jazz Charton, he asked to be her boyfriend. Read: Elon Musk just welcomed his (checks notes)... 14th child. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Mia Freedman Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producers: Coco Lavigne & Tessa Kotowicz Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

3 Maalis 44min

The New Things People Are Saying During Sex

The New Things People Are Saying During Sex

Outlouders, have you ever wondered what people who don't swear say during sex? Clean dirty talk, if you will. Wonder no more, friends, for we have a list of the most popular phrases to utter mid sexy time if you're not a potty mouth.They're... interesting. And, remember when AI was just a plot device in sci-fi movies with questionable fashion choices? Surprise. Now, the robots have infiltrated every corner of our existence – from grading kids' homework to diagnosing that weird rash you definitely didn't Google at 3am. But as our digital assistants get chattier than our actual colleagues, Jessie's been pondering: are we trading meaningful human connections for the convenience of having a cyber servant handle our admin? And what happens to our relationships when we'd rather text a chatbot than our actual friends? Brace yourselves for Jessie's hot take that might have you side-eyeing your smart speaker. Plus, Mia's new shoes, a beauty product you need to hear about, and the holy grail for picky eaters. And finally, our Best & Worsts of the week include: talking politicians, a boyfriend emergency, and one of us behaving so poorly she's claiming the official title of a "right cow". Moo. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular What To Listen To Next: Listen to our latest episode: The Money Pushover & A Woman Named Karen Listen: Ugly Female Friendships & A New Red Carpet Theory Listen: We're Desperate To Talk About 'The White Lotus' Season 3 Listen: The Sibling Estrangement Story We Can't Stop Thinking About Listening: The Fingering Renaissance Listen: The 'Apple Cider Vinegar' Debrief We All Needed Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. ENTER SUBSCRIBER GIVEAWAYS: Use code MMOLCRUISE for 20% off a yearly subscription. Recommendations: Mia wants you to check out Puma Speedcat Trainers, Onitsuka Tigers, Style runner shoe jewellery and... Rag and Bone Miramar "Jeans" Holly wants you to check out Revolution Eye Bright Concealer Tan Jessie wants you to listen to Search Engine: Can you cure picky eating? What To Read: Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025 Read: 'This is how it feels to be Jewish in Australia right now.' Read: We've found the best sneakers you can walk long distances in. Read: MIA FREEDMAN: 'The pants that divided the Internet a little bit.' GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Mia Freedman Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producers: Coco Lavigne & Tessa Kotowicz Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

28 Helmi 46min

Ugly Female Friendships & A New Red Carpet Theory

Ugly Female Friendships & A New Red Carpet Theory

Does it matter who a politician is married to? From Peter Dutton and Anthony Albanese to defacto US president Elon Musk, we discuss what your partner says about you. Plus, Season 3 of The White Lotus has given us a new iconic female friendship group. Why Laurie, Jaclyn and Kate’s glossy toxic dynamic is cringingly familiar. And, with the end of awards season in sight, what do we really mean when we say we’re “worried” about the size of the women on the Hollywood red carpet? PS: You can't miss Holly's chat about her own Roman Empire... Timothée Chalamet. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular What To Listen To Next: Listen to our latest episode: We're Desperate To Talk About 'The White Lotus' Season 3 Listen: The Sibling Estrangement Story We Can't Stop Thinking About Listening: The Fingering Renaissance Listen: The 'Apple Cider Vinegar' Debrief We All Needed Listen: The Belle Gibson Fallout & Armie's 'D*ckhead Defence' Listen: The Exact Age A "Hot Mess" Is No Longer Cute Listen: The Great Attention Thief Listen: The Bully, The Mum & The Aftermath Of A Viral Video Listen: A Very Honest Review Of Nicole Kidman's 'Baby Girl' Listen: The True Story Of A Liar: Belle Gibson & Apple Cider Vinegar Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. ENTER SUBSCRIBER GIVEAWAYS: Use code MMOLCRUISE for 20% off a yearly subscription. What To Read: Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025 Read: As Elon Musk’s custody battles are dragged into the spotlight, one video speaks volumes. Read: The White Lotus just nailed the ugly friendship dynamic we all recognise. Read: From Koh Samui to Phuket: All of The White Lotus Season 3 filming locations. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Amelia Lester Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler Video Producer: Josh Green Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

26 Helmi 47min

Finally, The Person Missing From The Ruby Franke Story

Finally, The Person Missing From The Ruby Franke Story

Ruby Franke, the family vlogger mum, is behind bars for child abuse -- but what about her husband Kevin? We dive into the forgotten family member in this disturbing story and ask whether this case should make us rethink how we share our children's lives online. Plus, from Meghan Markle's vision board to the surge in The White Lotus hotel bookings, why is everyone suddenly feeling aspirational? And, everyone’s lonely, but no-one wants to make plans. Why we’re in the Year of the Flake - unless you’re Mia Freedman who's top of the leaderboard for mastering the pre-flake. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular What To Listen To Next: Listen to our latest episode: The Sibling Estrangement Story We Can't Stop Thinking About Listening: The Fingering Renaissance Listen: The 'Apple Cider Vinegar' Debrief We All Needed Listen: The Belle Gibson Fallout & Armie's 'D*ckhead Defence' Listen: The Exact Age A "Hot Mess" Is No Longer Cute Listen: The Great Attention Thief Listen: The Bully, The Mum & The Aftermath Of A Viral Video Listen: A Very Honest Review Of Nicole Kidman's 'Baby Girl' Listen: The True Story Of A Liar: Belle Gibson & Apple Cider Vinegar Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. ENTER SUBSCRIBER GIVEAWAYS: Use code MMOLCRUISE for 20% off a yearly subscription. What To Read: Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025 Read: 'An open letter to whoever changed The White Lotus theme song.' Read: 18 months after her arrest, this is where Ruby Franke's kids are now. Read: Ruby Franke's husband claimed he never knew of her abuse. He's just spoken again. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Amelia Lester Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

24 Helmi 43min

The Sibling Estrangement Story We Can't Stop Thinking About

The Sibling Estrangement Story We Can't Stop Thinking About

A very public sibling feud sent Mia down a rabbit hole — and we needed to unpack it. From empire control to public fallouts, we dive into the dramatic Murdoch family saga that's playing out in public. Plus, we explore a growing trend — sibling therapy. With family relationships becoming increasingly complex, should more siblings be heading to the therapist's couch together? Also, we have our recommendations for your weekend. Something a bit sexy, something a bit controversial and the book Amelia Lester can’t stop talking about. And... our best and worst of the week. From an embarrassing moment, one of us thinks she’s beautiful and the jeans that transformed a wardrobe. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular What To Listen To Next: Listen to our latest episode: The Fingering Renaissance Listen: The 'Apple Cider Vinegar' Debrief We All Needed Listen: The Belle Gibson Fallout & Armie's 'D*ckhead Defence' Listen: The Exact Age A "Hot Mess" Is No Longer Cute Listen: The Great Attention Thief Listen: The Bully, The Mum & The Aftermath Of A Viral Video Listen: A Very Honest Review Of Nicole Kidman's 'Baby Girl' Listen: The True Story Of A Liar: Belle Gibson & Apple Cider Vinegar Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. ENTER SUBSCRIBER GIVEAWAYS: Use code MMOLCRUISE for 20% off a yearly subscription. Recommendations: Mia wants you to listen to Mamamia's spicy new podcast Butter Jessie wants you to watch The Apprentice on Stan Amelia wants you to read Ask Not: The Kennedys and the Women They Destroyed, by Maureen Callahan What To Read: Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025 Read: GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Amelia Lester Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

21 Helmi 52min

A Forensic Analysis of Meghan Markle’s Announcement

A Forensic Analysis of Meghan Markle’s Announcement

After trademark troubles and delays with her original brand, our favourite ex-royal is giving it another go. Meghan Markle's new Instagram teaser still gives us those dreamy Montecito mansion vibes, but now with a different name and (presumably) fewer jams. Is this a strategic pivot or damage control? Either way, we're here for it. Plus, Elon Musk brought his kids to the White House, and it's giving major "bring your kids to work day" energy... except when your dad is the world's richest man and he's accused by some as using you as a prop in his latest political statement. We unpack the ethics of it all. And finally, forget everything you thought you knew about modern relationships because apparently open marriages are OUT and good old-fashioned affairs are IN. We dive into the essay that's got everyone clutching their pearls and asking: did we overthink this whole ethical non-monogamy thing? Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular What To Listen To Next: Listen to our latest episode: The 'Apple Cider Vinegar' Debrief We All Needed Listen: The Belle Gibson Fallout & Armie's 'D*ckhead Defence' Listen: The Exact Age A "Hot Mess" Is No Longer Cute Listen: The Great Attention Thief Listen: The Bully, The Mum & The Aftermath Of A Viral Video Listen: A Very Honest Review Of Nicole Kidman's 'Baby Girl' Listen: The True Story Of A Liar: Belle Gibson & Apple Cider Vinegar Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. ENTER SUBSCRIBER GIVEAWAYS: Use code MMOLCRUISE for 20% off a yearly subscription. Mamamia wants to hear from you! Complete our survey to go in the running to win one of four $50 gift vouchers. What To Read: Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025 Read: 'I believe in my soul that Meghan Markle is trolling us and I'm eating it up.' Read: Let them have smut: Inside the rise of erotica. Read: Elon Musk just welcomed his 13th child. His response was... bizarre. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Amelia Lester Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

19 Helmi 38min

The Belle Gibson Fallout & Armie's 'D*ckhead Defence'

The Belle Gibson Fallout & Armie's 'D*ckhead Defence'

When Louis Theroux sat down with Armie Hammer last week, we witnessed what might be the most spectacular example of 'The Dickhead Defence' in recent history. But what exactly is it? And why do certain men think it's going to work? Plus: The real life people characterised in Apple Cider Vinegar aren't happy. But do they have good reason? Could someone pull a Belle Gibson in 2025? (And why are we still falling for wellness scammers?) And apparently, generations don't exist. Here's the science behind the claim and why it matters. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular What To Listen To Next: Listen to our latest episode: The Exact Age A "Hot Mess" Is No Longer Cute Listen: The Great Attention Thief Listen: The Bully, The Mum & The Aftermath Of A Viral Video Listen: A Very Honest Review Of Nicole Kidman's 'Baby Girl' Listen: The True Story Of A Liar: Belle Gibson & Apple Cider Vinegar Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. Mamamia wants to hear from you! Complete our survey to go in the running to win one of four $50 gift vouchers. What To Read: Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025 Read: Everything that happened after Belle Gibson admitted to not having cancer. Read: Jess Ainscough inspired Apple Cider Vinegar's Milla. Her former partner says it couldn't be further from the truth. Read: The most confusing part of Apple Cider Vinegar isn't Belle's cancer lies. It's her relationship with Clive. Read: Armie Hammer and the 'cancelled' celebrities who rage bait their way into headlines. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Amelia Lester Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

17 Helmi 42min

The Exact Age A "Hot Mess" Is No Longer Cute

The Exact Age A "Hot Mess" Is No Longer Cute

Is it time we retired the 'loveable disaster' trope? With Bridget Jones returning to our screens — still chaotic as ever — we're asking why society gets uncomfortable when women don't grow out of their Hot Mess Era. When does burning the spag bol stop being endearing and start being... annoying? Plus: 📚 Your next great read: Mia and Jessie share the books you'll want to add to your bedside table.📺 Holly's comfort TV recco for when you need to switch off. And in Best & Worst: Red carpet drama, epic tantrums, and a heated debate about Bunnings' sausage sizzle etiquette. 🌭 Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular What To Listen To Next: Listen to our latest episode: The Great Attention Thief Listen: The Bully, The Mum & The Aftermath Of A Viral Video Listen: A Very Honest Review Of Nicole Kidman's 'Baby Girl' Listen: The True Story Of A Liar: Belle Gibson & Apple Cider Vinegar Listen: Micropettiness & A Generation Of Try-Hards Listen: "Mummy, I Can See Her Bum" Listen: We're Desperate To Talk About 'Nightbitch' Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. Recommendations: Mia wants you to read Once Upon A Time: The Captivating Life of Carolyn Bassett Kennedy By Elizabeth Beller Holly wants you to watch Muster Dogs on ABC iView Jessie wants you to read The Wedding People: A Novel by Alison Espach What To Read: Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025 Read: 'I'm a die-hard Bridget Jones fan and this is my honest review of the new movie.' GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

14 Helmi 43min

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