Pelicans Outlook with Will Guillory; Rockets Outlook with Kelly Iko; Thursday Daily Duncs
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Pelicans Outlook with Will Guillory; Rockets Outlook with Kelly Iko; Thursday Daily Duncs

Kelly Iko, The Athletic’s Rockets beatman and host of the Ikosystem show, joins to discuss the rebuilding Rockets. We discuss the key dynamics around the team this season:What can we make of the fact there are more young guys than roles? What are the expectations for Stephen Silas as he enters the last guaranteed year of his contract? Can franchise pillars Jalen Green, Jabari Smith, Jr., and Alperen Sengun evolve this year? Plus, our predictions for the Rockets season.

Zion is back! Will Guillory of The Athletic takes a look at an intriguing Pels season. We discuss Zion’s form, the frontcourt fit with Jonas Valanciunas, the path to a good defense, what Willie Green’s rotation will look like, and of course make our predictions for the Pels’ season.

Plus, Thursday Daily Duncs.

Thursday Daily Duncs (10/13/22)

Patrick Beverley-Russell Westbrook

Something or nothing? In the Lakers' preseason loss to the Timberwolves yesterday, Patrick Beverley tried to bring his floormates together during a stoppage. Russell Westbrook didn't join.

As much as Beverley has talked up his fast friendship with Westbrook now that they're teammates in Los Angeles, there are many years of them being nemeses.

But I'm going with nothing.

Westbrook, who was called for a foul on the preceding play, might have been talking to a referee. Though resisting Beverley's continued attempts to wave him into the huddle, Westbrook high-fived Beverley while taking his spot outside the paint. By that time, Westbrook might have thought he was too late to huddle and it was time for the free throw.

Mostly, it's the high-five that does it for me. That's a key piece of evidence people overly thirsty for Lakers drama are overlooking

Draymond Green

The Warriors didn't suspend Draymond Green for punching Jordan Poole in the face.

Why not?

Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN:

I'm told that the Warriors, they put a significant amount of weight on the fact that opening night was ring night, that the players are going to get their rings. Draymond Green, Klay Thompson, Steph Curry – their fourth championship in Golden State. The banner is going to be raised. They did not treat this like it was one of 82. They didn't want to suspend Draymond Green and keep him from that. Now, if this incident had happened in the regular season or if this had just been a normal opening night and they weren't there as defending champions, there probably would've been a suspension for Draymond Green.

This strikes me as reasonable. Green was integral to the Warriors winning the championship. The ring-and-banner ceremony is a uniquely special moment in celebrating that massive accomplishment.

There are two, overlapping questions about how Golden State should have punished Green: How severe should the punishment have been? What punishment is appropriate? You can think Green deserved a harsher penalty than he got while believing suspending him for ring night wouldn't have been a fitting punishment.

My problem with the logic, though: Why didn't the Warriors just suspend Green for their previous two preseason games (which he missed anyway while away from the team) and maybe their last preseason game tomorrow (which he'll probably play in)? If Golden State wanted to send a message of a suspension while allowing Green to attend ring night, that would have been an easy middle ground.

Instead, the Warriors went out of their way to say Green's weeklong absence wasn't a suspension.

Jeanie Buss

Rich Eisen asked Lakers owner Jeannie Buss who's in her inner circle.

Buss:

“People are fascinated with that for some reason. I could ask you, do you ever ask Mark Cuban who his inner circle is? Or Joe Lacob who his inner circle is? There’s just something about being a woman I think people feel like, ‘Oh, what crutches does she need, or what does she lean on, because she’s not capable of doing it herself.’ I have great people that I work with. People seem most interested in Linda Rambis, who I’ve been working with for over 30 years. I’ve operated in the same style since I started working with the organization and, even before that, with the Great Western Forum putting on events. And I build – I’m a leader. I’m not a dictator. I like to build consensus. I like to hear from everybody at the table. And then ultimately people need to understand, I’m the governor of the team, and I’m held accountable for every decision that’s made both business and basketball. So if anything goes wrong, it’s on my watch, and I’m held accountable for it.”

People are fascinated with Buss' inner circle because they care about the Lakers. People caring so deeply about the Lakers has made Buss a lot of money, by the way. The franchise has made numerous questionable-at-best decisions, and people are so invested in the team, they want to understand who's behind those decisions.

There has been major interest in the Mavericks' power structure under Mark Cuban. Ditto the Warriors under Joe Lacob, though winning breeds contentment. The Lakers can't just tell fans to relax and trust the front office.

What does Buss mean when she says she's held accountable for the Lakers' decisions? She's not at risk of losing her position. She'll suffer the financial losses (or, more accurately, lesser financial gains). But she can just try again next time. As the Robert Sarver situation showed, owners are – in many ways – above accountability.

People in basketball operations usually aren't.

Unless they operate in the shadows of Jeanie Buss' inner circle. In that case, they're fairly well shielded.

Damian Lillard

Trail Blazers star Damian Lillard revealed more about his 2021 offseason meeting with LeBron James and Anthony Davis at LeBron's house in Los Angeles.

Lillard, via Logan Murdock of The Ringer:

“Like, man, what if that happened? What if I did go? I thought about it. At that point, I was thinking about a lot of things.”

Lillard added: “I was like, ‘If I’m going to ever look at a different situation than mine, I’m going to look at one where I know I’m going to have a great chance to win.’”

Lillard landed where he always does: loyal to Portland. I think it's cool Lillard has his own values and continues to stick with them. There are obviously temptations to join better teams.

However, I'm not sure the Lakers had enough ammo to trade for Lillard. Maybe if he demanded a trade specifically to Los Angeles. Maybe. But it's tough to imagine how the Trail Blazers would've reacted to something so out of character.

Lillard's meeting with LeBron and Davis at LeBron's house sounds similar to Russell Westbrook's meeting with LeBron and Davis at LeBron's house. The Lakers, of course, traded for Westbrook that summer.

Tyler Herro

The Heat signed Tyler Herro to a four-year, $120 million contract extension. (The deal could theoretically be worth $130 million with incentives. Emphasis on theoretically.)

Want an idea how these negotiations unfold (beyond just listening to our annual Mock Rookie Extensions podcast, of course)?

Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald:

Herro said Tuesday that the Heat made its initial extension offer on July 1, the first day that he became eligible for one. The first offer was four years, $100 million, Herro said.

The Heat, over the ensuing weeks, raised the offer to “like $112 [million], then $120 [million] and then $130” million, factoring in potential incentives, Herro said.

The significance of the Heat offering Herro an extension July 1: That shows they wanted to keep him rather than use him in a trade for someone like Kevin Durant or Donovan Mitchell. Once he signed the extension, Herro counts at his actual 2022-23 salary outgoing in a trade but the average of his salaries in 2022-23 and the four seasons of the extension outgoing.

Simply, trading Herro became far more complicated with the extension – a burden Miami wouldn't have accepted if wanting to trade Herro. The Heat were apparently willing to accept that limitation as early as July 1.

Andre Drummond

Bulls center Andre Drummond has made 3-of-4 3-pointers this preseason.

Like many centers, Drummond relishes opportunities to play like a guard. With the Pistons, Stan Van Gundy did the best job satisfying Drummond's desire to touch the ball more often, having the center serve as a passing hub from the high post. Drummond was actually good at that. Forays into shooting have been more erratic.

Drummond tried to make himself a threat from beyond the arc his last season-and-a-half in Detroit, but he connected on just 6-of-59 triples (10%).

Maybe this will be different.

If not, Chicago could again tap Drummond's passing. Already an offense not defined by traditional positional roles, the Bulls are down a playmaker with point guard Lonzo Ball injured.

Zach Lowe

Zach Lowe of ESPN published the top 10 of his annual League Pass Rankings.

The most watchable team: the Brooklyn Nets. And on some nights, I totally agree. They have the lure of massive untapped upside – or the possibility of spectacular failure. But when Kyrie Irving is out, there just isn't the same appeal (in either direction).

The safer pick is Lowe's second choice: the Golden State Warriors. Their chemistry is under the microscope after Draymond Green punched Jordan Poole. Plus, not only do the Warriors play a well-established enjoyable style of basketball, they're trying to integrate several intriguing youngsters, creating a compelling present-vs.-future debate.

Patrick Ewing

Georgetown posted an enjoyable video of Patrick Ewing watching his current Hoyas players trying to name 90s Knicks by pictures. Considering these Georgetown players weren't even born when Ewing last played for New York, I thought they did pretty well. But it is fun to watch them struggle.

For anyone – Hoya or otherwise – wanting to brush up on their 90s Knicks, I recommend "Blood in the Garden" by Chris Herring.

Sacramento Kings

The Kings installed a bell in their practice facility to honor certain overlooked plays. Harrison Barnes earned the first ring by taking a charge. But when someone hit the bell, it broke.

Classic Kangz.

They have since replaced the bell.

Trey Murphy III

Speaking of bloopers, Pelicans forward Trey Murphy III broke up Kyle Lowry's hit-ahead pass to Bam Adebayo – right off the backboard into New Orleans' own basket. Adebayo quickly raised his hand to claim credit for the bucket, which he was entitled to as the closest Heat player.

-Dan Feldman

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John Collins is traded! Plus Toronto and Brooklyn Offseasons

John Collins is traded! Plus Toronto and Brooklyn Offseasons

Our long national nightmare is over, as John Collins has actually been traded! We discuss the fascinating and evolving dynamics around trading underperforming salaries, what the Jazz look like now, and why the Hawks needed to do this move.We also hit on the latest free agency rumors, plus an interesting argument about whether the NBA should allow sovereign wealth funds to invest.Then, two heavy-hitters this offseason. Toronto has Fred VanVleet and Jakob Poeltl as free agents, plus a number of key extension-eligible players. The pick they owe in the future also complicates matters.What do we expect Cam Johnson to re-sign for in Brooklyn? Does it make sense to trade for Damian Lillard?Four more episodes with Nate & Danny per week are available exclusively on Dunc’d On Prime, plus it’s the only place to hear John Hollinger & Nate as well! DuncdOn.SupportingCast.FM Join Dunc'd On Prime for for 35% off a yearly subscription in honor of the Mock Trade Deadline! Use code mockdeadline26. Join Dunc’d On Prime! It's the only place to get every episode with Nate & Danny, plus every pod with John Hollinger & Nate as well!Subscribe on YouTube to get Dunc'd On Clutch Calls, Real Video Scouts, and more.Or, sign up for our FREE mailing list to get Dan Feldman's Daily Duncs with all the major topics around the league twice a week. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

27 Kesä 20231h 20min

The 2023 NBA Draft

The 2023 NBA Draft

A full breakdown of everything that happened on draft night 2023.  The Hornets’ pick at 2, the Blazers’ future after picking Scoot, the Chris Paul/Jordan Poole trade, plus analysis of every single first round pick and transaction.Plus, we pick the big winners and losers of the night.Four more episodes with Nate & Danny per week are available exclusively on Dunc’d On Prime, plus it’s the only place to hear John Hollinger & Nate as well! DuncdOn.SupportingCast.FM Join Dunc'd On Prime for for 35% off a yearly subscription in honor of the Mock Trade Deadline! Use code mockdeadline26. Join Dunc’d On Prime! It's the only place to get every episode with Nate & Danny, plus every pod with John Hollinger & Nate as well!Subscribe on YouTube to get Dunc'd On Clutch Calls, Real Video Scouts, and more.Or, sign up for our FREE mailing list to get Dan Feldman's Daily Duncs with all the major topics around the league twice a week. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

23 Kesä 20232h 7min

2023 Draft Board With Keandre Ashley of Hoop Intellect

2023 Draft Board With Keandre Ashley of Hoop Intellect

The premier draft YouTuber Keandre Ashley is back to discuss the top of the 2023 draft. Is Victor Wembanyama going to be a generational player, and what are the swing points? Should Brandon Miller or Scoot Henderson go #2 overall? Where do the Thompson twins fit in at the top of the draft? Cam Whitmore, Jarace Walker, or Taylor Hendricks? Gradey Dick or Anthony Black? Plus, Keandre gives some of the players he’s higher or lower on than consensus.And, make sure to check out the Hoop Intellect channel for full scouting breakdowns of all these prospects and more.For our complete draft and offseason coverage, subscribe to Dunc'd On Prime with our Mock Offseason Sale!DuncdOn.SupportingCast.fm Join Dunc'd On Prime for for 35% off a yearly subscription in honor of the Mock Trade Deadline! Use code mockdeadline26. Join Dunc’d On Prime! It's the only place to get every episode with Nate & Danny, plus every pod with John Hollinger & Nate as well!Subscribe on YouTube to get Dunc'd On Clutch Calls, Real Video Scouts, and more.Or, sign up for our FREE mailing list to get Dan Feldman's Daily Duncs with all the major topics around the league twice a week. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

20 Kesä 20231h 12min

Bradley Beal Traded to Phoenix; Taylor Hendricks and Gradey Dick Scouting Reports

Bradley Beal Traded to Phoenix; Taylor Hendricks and Gradey Dick Scouting Reports

Well that didn’t take long! Bradley Beal is now a Phoenix Sun. Was this the right move to boost Phoenix into championship contention? How bad are the financial ramifications for the Suns? Why were the Wizards able to get so little, and was it so little that they should have waited?We also hit on other big news, including the sale of the Charlotte Hornets and Ja Morant’s 25-game suspension.Then, two prospects with uncommon skill sets for one and dones in Taylor Hendricks and Gradey Dick.Four more episodes with Nate & Danny per week are available exclusively on Dunc’d On Prime, plus it’s the only place to hear John Hollinger & Nate as well! DuncdOn.SupportingCast.FM Join Dunc'd On Prime for for 35% off a yearly subscription in honor of the Mock Trade Deadline! Use code mockdeadline26. Join Dunc’d On Prime! It's the only place to get every episode with Nate & Danny, plus every pod with John Hollinger & Nate as well!Subscribe on YouTube to get Dunc'd On Clutch Calls, Real Video Scouts, and more.Or, sign up for our FREE mailing list to get Dan Feldman's Daily Duncs with all the major topics around the league twice a week. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

19 Kesä 20231h 47min

Anthony Black Scouting Report; Houston and San Antonio Offseasons

Anthony Black Scouting Report; Houston and San Antonio Offseasons

Big point guard Anthony Black of Arkansas is today’s scouting report. We try to assess what to make of his unique strengths and weaknesses at the position.After catching up on the latest rumors, we discuss one of the key teams of the offseason in the Houston Rockets. They are sitting on over $60 million in cap space. Do the James Harden rumors make sense for Houston? How should they be approaching the near future given they don’t control their next few years of draft picks? Who should they zero in on with the 4th pick? And if it’s not James Harden, which players make the most sense in free agency to satisfy the win-now edict but also build for the future?In San Antonio, what should they do with up to $38 million or so in cap space? Should they try to find young complements to Victor Wembanyama now, find solid veterans, or rent out their cap space to taxed out teams?Want all our draft scouting reports, offseason previews and much more? Subscribe to Dunc'd On Prime with our Mock Offseason Sale!DuncdOn.SupportingCast.fm Join Dunc'd On Prime for for 35% off a yearly subscription in honor of the Mock Trade Deadline! Use code mockdeadline26. Join Dunc’d On Prime! It's the only place to get every episode with Nate & Danny, plus every pod with John Hollinger & Nate as well!Subscribe on YouTube to get Dunc'd On Clutch Calls, Real Video Scouts, and more.Or, sign up for our FREE mailing list to get Dan Feldman's Daily Duncs with all the major topics around the league twice a week. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

16 Kesä 20231h 22min

Denver and Miami Offseason Outlooks

Denver and Miami Offseason Outlooks

The Nuggets have their core under contract, but do have some luxury tax concerns and financial limitations bringing back Bruce Brown and Jeff Green. Can they use the tax mid-level to replace them? And how will they fill their regular season holes at backup point guard and backup center?Miami is facing a financial apocalypse at $15 million into the tax before re-signing Max Strus and Gabe Vincent. How can they pare salary, but also go big game hunting with their picks?Want all our draft scouting reports, offseason previews and much more? Subscribe to Dunc'd On Prime with our Mock Offseason Sale!DuncdOn.SupportingCast.fm Join Dunc'd On Prime for for 35% off a yearly subscription in honor of the Mock Trade Deadline! Use code mockdeadline26. Join Dunc’d On Prime! It's the only place to get every episode with Nate & Danny, plus every pod with John Hollinger & Nate as well!Subscribe on YouTube to get Dunc'd On Clutch Calls, Real Video Scouts, and more.Or, sign up for our FREE mailing list to get Dan Feldman's Daily Duncs with all the major topics around the league twice a week. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

14 Kesä 202342min

Seth Partnow: The Dominant Nuggets and the Lessons of the Playoffs

Seth Partnow: The Dominant Nuggets and the Lessons of the Playoffs

Seth Partnow of The Athletic and Sports Business Classroom, in addition to Dunc’d On Prime, joins to dissect the Nuggets’ dominant run to a likely NBA championship.Is Nikola Jokic now the inarguably best player in the world?Nate delivers his mea culpa for not believing in the Nuggets, and we also discuss whether any other vanquished team from the East would have fared better against Denver than Miami.We look at the lessons to take from this fascinating NBA playoffs. Plus, America’s favorite NBA podcast Simpsons-related gimmick returns.You can sign up for SBC at SportsBusinessClassroom.com and get a substantial discount using code June15.Want more Seth Partnow? Subscribe to Dunc'd On Prime with our Mock Offseason Sale to get his written analysis three times per week along with six ad-free episodes from Nate and Danny and John Hollinger plus much more!DuncdOn.SupportingCast.fm Join Dunc'd On Prime for for 35% off a yearly subscription in honor of the Mock Trade Deadline! Use code mockdeadline26. Join Dunc’d On Prime! It's the only place to get every episode with Nate & Danny, plus every pod with John Hollinger & Nate as well!Subscribe on YouTube to get Dunc'd On Clutch Calls, Real Video Scouts, and more.Or, sign up for our FREE mailing list to get Dan Feldman's Daily Duncs with all the major topics around the league twice a week. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

12 Kesä 202345min

Into the 2023 CBA Weeds with Larry Coon

Into the 2023 CBA Weeds with Larry Coon

Oh, you thought we covered a lot in the last CBA episode? In this one, Larry Coon and Nate hit on every other key aspect of the new CBA, including: The relaxed trade rulesThe Melo rule has been changedSign-and-trade restrictions above the Second Apron, the Kevin Durant ruleThe modifications to the implied no-trade clauseMore flexibility in stretching playersThe details of the new combine requirements and changes to agency pro daysNew Two-Way contract rulesInternational player payment modificationsThe playing requirements for league honorsPlus, Larry offers an even better discount for Sports Business Classroom Sign up at SportsBusinessClassroom.comFor more salary-cap analysis in podcasts and Daily Duncs, subscribe to Dunc'd On Prime with our Mock Offseason Sale!Listen to Nate and Danny live call playoff games via Playback. Bookmark the schedule of games. Join Dunc'd On Prime for for 35% off a yearly subscription in honor of the Mock Trade Deadline! Use code mockdeadline26. Join Dunc’d On Prime! It's the only place to get every episode with Nate & Danny, plus every pod with John Hollinger & Nate as well!Subscribe on YouTube to get Dunc'd On Clutch Calls, Real Video Scouts, and more.Or, sign up for our FREE mailing list to get Dan Feldman's Daily Duncs with all the major topics around the league twice a week. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

6 Kesä 20231h 18min

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