The Commentators' View: Ali hit by golf ball & John’s fashion show

Golf correspondent Iain Carter & commentator Kat Downes join John Murray & Ali Bruce-Ball from the Ryder Cup. They talk about John’s travel trevails and his unexpected personal shopping experience. Why will commentating at this Ryder Cup be different? Who will we raise a glass to after Clash of the Commentators? And more suggestions for the Great Glossary of Football Commentary. Get your suggestions in with WhatsApp voicenotes to 08000 289 369 & emails to TCV@bbc.co.uk

01:45 Does the Ryder Cup beat all other golf events? 04:10 John’s travel travails mean 24 hours awake 05:45 John’s personal shopping experience 07:50 Commentating on the tee shots 14:00 Could politics make for hostile atmosphere? 15:45 John’s encounters with American supporters 20:35 Commentator Kat Downes joins the pod 23:45 Ali getting hit on the head by a tee shot 31:05 Fine facial fuzz & more pub names 34:30 5 Live football commentaries this weekend 38:45 Clash of the Commentators 45:10 Great Glossary of Football Commentary 48:30 Who’s the most ‘one for the cameras’ golfer

BBC Sounds / 5 Live commentaries: Sat 1500 Crystal Palace v Liverpool, Sat 1500 Chelsea v Brighton on Sports Extra, Sat 1730 Nottingham Forest v Sunderland on Sports Extra, Sun 1400 Aston Villa v Fulham, Sun 1630 Newcastle v Arsenal on Sports Extra.

Glossary so far:

DIVISION ONE Cryuff Turn

DIVISION TWO Howler One for the cameras Root and branch review Row Z Taking one for the team That’s great… (football) Thunderous strike

UNSORTED 2-0 is a dangerous score, After you Claude, All-Premier League affair, Aplomb, Bag/box of tricks, Brace, Brandished, Breaking the deadlock, Bundled over the line, Champions elect / champions apparent, Clinical finish, Commentator’s curse, Coupon buster, Cultured/Educated left foot, Denied by the woodwork, Draught excluder, Elimination line, Fellow countryman, Foot race, Formerly of this parish, Fox in the box, Free hit, Goalkeepers’ Union, Goalmouth scramble, Good touch for a big man, Honeymoon Period, In and around, In the shop window, Keeping ball under their spell, Keystone Cops defending, Languishing, Loitering with intent, Marching orders, Nestle in the bottom corner, Numbered derbies, Nutmeg, Opposite number, Park the bus, PK for penalty-kick, Postage stamp, Put it in the mixer, Put their laces through it, Rasping shot, Red wine not white wine, Relegation six-pointer, Rooted at the bottom, Route One, Roy of the Rovers stuff, Sending the goalkeeper the wrong way, Shooting boots, Sleeping giants, Slide rule pass, Small matter of, Spiders web, Stayed hit, Steepling, Stinging the palms, Stonewall penalty, Straight off the training ground, Stramash, Taking one for the team, Team that likes to play football, Throw their cap on it, Thruppenny bit head / 50p head, Towering header, Two good feet, Turning into a basketball match, Turning into a cricket score, Usher/Shepherd the ball out of play, Walking a disciplinary tightrope, Wand of a left foot, We’ve got a cup tie on our hands, Where the kookaburra sleeps, Where the owl sleeps, Winger in their pocket, Wrap foot around it, Your De Bruynes, your Gundogans etc.