Trading the Markets: October 1, 2025 | Kris Bullock and Bijan Maleki

Kiril Sokoloff, chairman and founder of 13D Global Strategy and Research, joins Raoul Pal, CEO and co-founder of Real Vision, to discuss the ongoing coronavirus pandemic and its long-term consequences on monetary policy, investing, and geopolitics. Pal and Sokoloff analyze how a protracted quarantine might slow economic activity to such a degree that central banks become more active than they ever have before, either by monetizing debt or by purchasing risk assets outright. The pair also explore how the crisis might affect the 2020 election, the practice of stock buybacks, and specific assets like oil, gold, and the Japanese Yen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

31 Touko 202055min

Recently the Federal Reserve has taken unprecedented steps to backstop the market, sending investors scrambling to relearn the “rules of the game,” and inciting arguably justifiable outrage from others. Matt Rowe, CIO of Headwaters Volatility, and Jared Dillian, editor of The Daily Dirtnap, debate the utility of this outrage and explore whether the level of shock is justified considering the long history of the “rules changing”. Additionally, they examine the misaligned incentives for investors and governments, try to make sense of the recent rally in equities and the bifurcation of the high-yield market, and look forward at the potential for big surprises like bailouts or the Fed stepping into the equity market.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

30 Touko 202057min

Senior editor Ash Bennington joins managing editor Ed Harrison to discuss the latest developments in markets and macro in the era of coronavirus. Bennington and Harrison talk through the risks and potential upside to growth as European institutions debate bailouts in Europe, the possible ripple effect of President Trump’s call to revoke Hong Kong’s special trade status, and the plausibility of the renminbi becoming a global reserve currency. In the intro, Real Vision's Peter Cooper discusses some of the latest economic data coming out of Canada. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

30 Touko 202037min

Managing editor, Ed Harrison, joins managing editor, Roger Hirst, to discuss the latest developments in markets, macro, and coronavirus. They talk through why US equities are still not suffering even though the real economic data demonstrates an increasingly bleaker picture. In light of that, Harrison and Hirst break down what lessons to draw from this investing environment. In the intro, Real Vision’s Jack Farley looks at the continued layoffs in the airline and tech industries. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

29 Touko 202032min

Senior editor, Ash Bennington, joins managing editor, Roger Hirst, to discuss the latest developments in macro, markets, and coronavirus. Bennington and Hirst analyze what’s happening in Europe, including the recently proposed EU stimulus package, ballooning European debt, and the underlying structure of the eurozone. They also discuss recent moves in equity prices and the current landscape of currency markets. In the intro, Real Vision’s Nick Correa shares the details of both the EU’s and Japan’s proposed stimulus bills for economic relief. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

27 Touko 202040min

Managing editor Ed Harrison and senior editor Ash Bennington break down the brewing tensions between China and the United States. They comprehend the consequences of a potential "decoupling" between the two superpowers and analyze the possibility of a new Cold War. Ed and Ash also analyze the continued rise of U.S. equities and look forward to see whether the ongoing crisis will be the shortest recession in history or if there is some "post-snapback malaise" in store. In the intro, Jack Farley takes a look at what could be the first convertible bond default in the history of Chinese markets. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

26 Touko 202036min

Senior editor Ash Bennington joins Real Vision CEO and co-founder Raoul Pal to discuss the latest developments in macro and coronavirus. Bennington and Pal discuss the collapsing velocity of money and stagnant US growth, the Canadian and Australian housing markets, and what the future of commercial real estate may look like in a post-coronavirus world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

25 Touko 202042min

Dr. Dena Grayson speaks to Pedro Da Costa about the ongoing efforts of medical professionals to save lives and stop the COVID-19 pandemic in its tracks. She evaluates the promising new drug Remdesivir and discusses her work on similar drugs such as Galidesivir and Favipiravir. She shares her thoughts on herd immunity, the possibility of a vaccine, as well as the different efforts of governments worldwide to contain the pandemic. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

24 Touko 202049min