SHOCKER! Wife and Daughter Testify Against Dad in Murder of Future Son-in-law

Veronica Butler and Jilian Kelley vanish on their way to pick up Veronica’s children to go to a birthday party. They were supposed to meet up with Veronica Butler’s ex-mother-in-law at a closed gas station in rural Texas County, Oklahoma. But they never make it. On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how evidence from blood to tire treads will help solve the mystery of the Missing Moms.             Transcript Highlights  00:00:00 Introduction of shared custody  00:03:10 Discussion or relationships and death  00:06:50 Talk about terrain  00:11:03 Discussion of moms reported missing  00:14:08 Talk about how vehicle ended up where it is found  00:18:46 Discussion of evidence found at scene  00:23:21Talk about tire tread identification  00:27:47 Discussion of term “puddle of blood”  00:31:16 Discussion of meeting place  00:34:16 Talk about SWAT Teams showing up in Rural County  00:38:44 Talk about death penalty states  00:40:56 Discussion identifying body  00:42:29 Conclusion   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

18 Huhti 202442min

For years she was labeled “Bones 20” the unidentified victim of the Green River Killer. But now, thanks to police work and Othram Labs, the victim has been named as Tammy Liles. She was from Everett, Washington, and vanished in the summer of 1983. She was only 16 years old when she became a victim of serial killer Gary Ridgeway. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will take you behind the headlines and into the lab that helped give a name to a young lady who spent decades being called “bones 20”.           Transcript Highlights   00:0:16 Introduction – The Green River Killer last victim identified  00:02:28 Talk about age reference   00:06:32 Discussion of high-profile murders  00:10:48 Talk about the Green River Killer 16-year-old victim  00:15:56 Discussion of identifying remains  00:20:54 Discussion of the Green River Killer evidence  00:25:58 Talk about starting with incomplete skeleton  00:29:41 Discussion of Genetic Genealogy  00:34:51 Talking about Othram labs  00:37:39 Conclusion; might be the most noble of pursuits   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

17 Huhti 202438min

Destiny Duckett’s cousin couldn’t reach her by phone, so she stopped by her apartment to check on her. The cousin knocks on the door, but Destiny doesn’t answer. The cousin can hear the baby crying and she is worried. She calls police to do a welfare check and when they enter Destiny Duckett’s apartment, her 8-week old son is on the bed, crying, and his 22-year-old mother is on the floor, dead. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will look into the mysterious death of 22-year-old new mother, Destiny Duckett and Joseph Scott Morgan  will explain how fingernails play a keep part in solving the murder.        Transcript Highlights  00:00:00 Introduction of case  00:02:20 Discussion of fingernails   00:05:37 Talk about cousin called police, heard baby crying  00:10:56 Discussion of protective order leading to arrest of suspect   00:15:26 Talk about leaving crying baby on the bed, alone, mother dead on floor  00:19:43 Discussion of body being the biggest evidence  00:24:16 Discussion of proving knees were on chest of victim  00:28:26 Talk about fingernail marks on the neck  00:33:55 Discussion of why suspect was already in jail  00:36:33 Conclusion – Convicted, sentencing to come   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

16 Huhti 202431min

A bag with a burned, dismembered torso is found by a boy out for a horseback ride about a mile from town. The police chief says he was mowing his lawn when he got the call about the headless, armless, legless, burned torso, and from that moment on it was "chaos". On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will tell the story of the dismembered and burned torso and how, after 44-years, he was finally identified with DNA and Othram labs.   Transcript Highlights  00:00:00 Introduction of episode  00:02:13 Talk about identifying Joseph Caliva  00:06:15 Discussion of years beginning in 1979  00:10:40 Talk about dismemberment  00:15:48 Discussion of what was found  00:17:39 Talk about burned remains  00:22:25 Discussion about trying to ID person  00:27:25 Talk about finding portions of the torso  00:31:54 Talk about creating a person out of evidence  00:36:34 Discussion after 44 years, victim identified See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

11 Huhti 202436min

AUTOPSY REPORT WILL NOT BE RELEASED. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain what happened to Madeline Soto and Dave Mack will dig into the back story of the entire family. You will find out by the time she reached 13-years-old, Madeline Soto had already been sexually abused for years. When she was a “missing 13-year-old" from Florida, the news covered every tidbit of information about the search for the teen. One piece of evidence that made it to the press was how Madeline Soto told a friend when she turned 13, she was going to live in the woods. That is why police searched the woods for Madeline.       Transcript Highlights  00:00:28 Introduction, talk about parents protecting children  00:04:28 Talk about Madeline Soto saying she wanted to live in the woods  00:05:31 Discussion of ages 12 and 13  00:09:04 Discussion of Madeline not taking cell phone  00:12:29 Talk about family being told about evidence  00:16:42 Discussion of time children go to school  00:20:07 Discussion of Madeline Soto seen in vehicle  00:21:49 Talk about being haunted by evidence  00:26:26 Discussion of Madeline Soto  00:30:26 Talk about video surveillance of suspect  00:33:22 Discussion of 60 charges against suspect   00:37:32 Discussion of evidence of previous abuse See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

10 Huhti 202439min

The fire department shows up at the home of one of their own and find Melissa Lamesch unconscious on the kitchen floor as her home goes up in flames around her. She is on maternity leave from her job as an EMT and is expecting her baby to be born any day. Melissa Lamesch and her unborn baby die in what authorities believe is asphyxiation from the fire. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will breakdown how trying to burn evidence of a crime, oftentimes creates the evidence needed for conviction.             Transcript Highlights  00:00:08 Introduction of fire set to cover-up a murder  00:01:18 Talk about fire and smoke  00:03:10 Discussion of smoke as evidence  00:05:05 Discussion of woman, 9 months pregnant, dying in a fire  00:08:35 Talk about how healing takes place after being burned   00:11:26 Discussion of hair catching fire in bathroom  00:14:43 Victim is on maternity leave from job as EMT  00:18:53 Discussion of the mother and her baby  00:22:53 Discussion of monoxide  00:28:01 Talk about suffocation  00:33:33 Discussion of fire splash patterns  00:36:55 Talk about the family talking to officials after the fire  00:40:46 Discussion of dealing with the death of pregnant mother  00:43:10 Conclusion, Matthew Plote convicted for Murder  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

9 Huhti 202443min

Deborah Frazier calls 911 and tells them two burglars have shot her boyfriend, and as she is on the phone, a gunshot is heard and Frazier tells the dispatcher she has been shot in the leg by one of the burglars. Police arrive and discover the first person shot, Mr. Thomas Waddell, is in the back room of his apartment, wrapped in a blanket and a garbage bag and secured with duct tape. On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan will explain all of the things police will have to believe for Deborah Frazier's story to be true and Dave Mack will explain how Frazier was using a second boyfriend to con Mr Waddell out of his life savings!   Transcript Highlights  00:00:42 Talk about everything that has to be believed for the story to be true  00:02:48 Discussion of not believing a story  00:04:20 Discussion of “victim” shooting her boyfriend in the head  00:05:53 Talk about cases too difficult to believe  00:10:54 Talk about self-inflicted gunshot wound  00:14:19 Discussion of the victim who just retired  00:18:54 Talk about determining how long person has been dead  00:23:19 Discuss investigation of digital background  00:28:34 Talk about GSR test  00:33:02 Discussion of police on scene, gunshot recorded  00:37:57 Discussion of what has to be believed by investigators  00:40:12 Talk about Pictures of a life shared, scattered on the floor   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

4 Huhti 202439min

Burned remains of a man found inside a foot locker and left in a blueberry field in Michigan were not identified for 13 years. In 2015 the case was called  "The Jack-in-the-Box Murder because it was a catchy title. The remains were not identified until the Ottawa County Sheriff's Office received a tip in 2015 that gave them the information they needed to use dental records to identify the deceased as Robert Caraballo. Investigating Caraballo's life at the time of his death took investigators to the home he shared with his wife and stepdaughter. Joseph Scott Morgan will break down the forensics that brought this case to a conclusion and Dave Mack will help tell the story of how the Jack-in-the-Box Murder became The Fugitive Wife Murder Trial.          Transcript Highlights  00:00:44 Introduction of story a burned body in a trunk found in blueberry field  00:02:40 Talk about conspiracy and escaping to other side of the planet  00:05:28 Discussion of victim being alive with hammer stuck in skull  00:08:02 Discussion of injury caused by falling downstairs  00:12:34 Talk about how remains could not be identified  00:15:11 Discussion of evidence in hammer attack  00:19:49 Discussion of hitting head with a hammer  00:23:51Talk about how the skull breaks  00:28:19 Discussion of destroying a body  00:32:37 Discussion of “old school” identifying remains  00:35:15 Talk about the plan to push victim down the stairs, hit him with a bat  00:35:53 Talk about the conspiracy  00:38:01 Discussion of law in Italy for hotel guests  00:39:15 Discussion of cover-up  00:40:06 Beverly McCallum guilty on all charges  00:40:42 Talk about keeping a secret   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

2 Huhti 202441min