EP 110: “The Verm” Returns — Life Lessons at Age 62, Fun Facts About Birds, and Injury Stories

EP 110: “The Verm” Returns — Life Lessons at Age 62, Fun Facts About Birds, and Injury Stories

This is round 2 with John Sherman aka “The Verm”. We sat in the desert near Hueco Tanks and chatted over a few beers. We talked about ‘Wheatiesgate’ and the lost art of heckling, finding and developing areas before the internet, dealing with aging, photographing and studying birds, life lessons, injury stories, and John’s favorite beers.

*I recommend listening to my first episode with Verm (EP 108) before this episode.

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Show Notes:

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0:06:39 – The Michael Salem catalog

0:09:33 – West Texas in the early 80s

0:17:02 – ‘Wheatiesgate’ and the lost art of heckling

0:27:16 – Patron question from Eli: As bouldering has evolved, what has stayed the same?

0:28:39 – Adventureland, and the experience of climbing boulders without names or stars or grades

0:34:39 – Finding Ibex, UT, and discovering new areas before Google Earth

0:41:40 – Patron question from Brandon: What advice would The Verm give to a new climber?

0:48:09 – Aging, prostates, and swollen knuckles

0:55:34 – Hangdogging, new-age tactics, and why John feels like Jason Kehl is a kindred spirit

0:58:33 – What has surprised John about aging, and how baby birds poop

1:02:09 – Cognitive decline, and other scary things that come with age

1:06:32 – Taking his foot off the gas, getting out of shape, and calorie counting

1:10:29 – Getting an amazing personal trainer, and fixing his elbow issues by fixing his shoulders

1:17:52 – Patron question from Brandon: What got you into birding? And what about it got you hooked?

1:24:27 – Patron question from Brandon: Has birding taught you any life lessons?

1:42:27 – Injury stories and life lessons

2:31:29 – Developing bouldering in Ibex, UT

2:37:02 – A year in Verm’s life, and tick marks

2:44:10 – Return of the harrier, and more bird facts

2:52:10 – Favorite books and short stories

2:57:59 – Verm’s memoir idea, favorite books, and sports

3:07:50 – Climbing with Paul Robinson and Michaela Kiersch

3:14:59 – The compression revolution, John Gill, slab dynoing, and the Hoover Maneuver

3:23:59 – Patron question from Brandon: Top three beers? (and the De Garre story)

3:38:20 – Patron question from Craig: What bird best represents your personality? (and duck penises)

3:46:15 – Patron question from Craig: What bird would John Gill be?

3:53:04 – The baboon story

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EP 16: Tara Kerzhner — Capturing Moments, Telling Stories, and Shooting What You Love

EP 16: Tara Kerzhner — Capturing Moments, Telling Stories, and Shooting What You Love

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EP 15: Katie Lambert — Improving Every Year, Balancing Multiple Disciplines, and Nutrition for Climbers

EP 15: Katie Lambert — Improving Every Year, Balancing Multiple Disciplines, and Nutrition for Climbers

Katie Lambert is an elite rock climber in just about every discipline of the sport. She is also a contributing author for Climbing Magazine, owns a business, and has a master’s in nutrition. We talked...

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EP 14: Jonathan Siegrist — Current Training Methods, Second-Go Tactics, and The Fins Project

EP 14: Jonathan Siegrist — Current Training Methods, Second-Go Tactics, and The Fins Project

Jonathan Siegrist is a professional rock climber, and one of the most prolific sport climbers in the world. We talked about the evolution of his training, how he trained to climb 5.15b, current traini...

20 Huhti 20201h 57min

EP 13: Bill Ramsey — ‘Jumbo Pumping Hate’, Training with Replicas, and a Two-Part Climbing Career

EP 13: Bill Ramsey — ‘Jumbo Pumping Hate’, Training with Replicas, and a Two-Part Climbing Career

Bill Ramsey is a professor of philosophy at the University of Nevada Las Vegas and at 59-years-old, still climbs 5.14. We talked about his coffee addiction, his legendary training days and how he uses...

13 Huhti 20201h 40min

EP 12: Mike Doyle — Lessons From 10+ Years of Coaching, Onsighting Tips, and Working Extra Remotely

EP 12: Mike Doyle — Lessons From 10+ Years of Coaching, Onsighting Tips, and Working Extra Remotely

Mike Doyle is an elite-level rock climber who balances climbing with a career as a software engineer. He also has a long history of competition climbing and coaching. We talked about lessons learned f...

6 Huhti 20201h 39min

EP 11: Shanjean Lee — From Surgical Residency to 5.13+ Trad, Dating Your Climbing Partner, and the Importance of Self-Belief

EP 11: Shanjean Lee — From Surgical Residency to 5.13+ Trad, Dating Your Climbing Partner, and the Importance of Self-Belief

Shanjean Lee is an orthopedic surgeon and a badass climber whose accomplishments range from V10 boulders, to 5.14a sport, to 5.13+ trad and multi-pitch climbs. We talked about how SJ trained to climb ...

30 Maalis 20201h 58min

EP 10: Peter Croft — ‘The Shadow’ Game, Training for Linkups, and the Magic of Inspiration

EP 10: Peter Croft — ‘The Shadow’ Game, Training for Linkups, and the Magic of Inspiration

Peter Croft is an absolute legend in climbing. We talked about ‘The Shadow’ in Squamish and how his ascent became a climbing game, lessons from spending time alone, experimenting with burning fat for ...

23 Maalis 20201h 45min

EP 09: Will Stanhope — The Injury Process, Trad Climbing Tips, and More Climbing Less Training

EP 09: Will Stanhope — The Injury Process, Trad Climbing Tips, and More Climbing Less Training

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