Dealing with life's ups and downs. With TV personality and 80s pop star Sinitta #76

Sometimes on my podcast Zestology I get very specific - into the nitty gritty of supplements, lifestyle practices and the science of feeling good. And then sometimes, I like to meet and pick the brains of interesting, successful and prominent people with a damn good story to tell. Roll on this week - yep this pic is me hanging out with 80s pop sensation Sinitta.

Sinitta has 14 international hit singles. I was basically singing along to her music in the 80s.

She is a mentor on The X Factor and she now makes her own fitness videos.

But one of the best moments in our chat - I thought - was when she told the long and yes, maybe even a bit painful story of how she realised she "wasn't famous any more", and how she dealt with some serious ups and downs.