The Beauty Lessons Pia Whitesell Wishes She’d Learned Sooner
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The Beauty Lessons Pia Whitesell Wishes She’d Learned Sooner

The former Home and Away star just revealed she'd "one thousand percent" discourage teenage modelling - despite winning Dolly's competition herself at 14.

At 41, Pia Whitesell has never felt more comfortable in her skin, which is exactly why Olay chose her as their new ambassador. This week, Kelly's chatting with the actress about her complete beauty evolution and why the Hello Better Me campaign speaks to women who want progress over perfection.

She's serving up some serious reality checks about the modelling industry, why becoming a mum changed everything about her beauty priorities, and how she's learned that "the most powerful beauty ritual is backing yourself." Plus, she spills on her Kardashian-level glam for her 40th birthday and opens up about learning to love the one facial quirk that used to make her feel insecure.

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    Guest: Pia Whitesell

    Producer: Sophie Campbell

    Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler

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    Style Inspo: No Cash? No Worries. Your Budget Friendly Wardrobe Guide

    Style Inspo: No Cash? No Worries. Your Budget Friendly Wardrobe Guide

    Ready for a wardrobe refresh? Leigh's back with the brilliant Kim Crowley (seriously, she's so organised it's almost suspicious) helping you get your wardrobe sorted without breaking the bank. Kim tells us why most of us can buy clothes but can't create outfits and lets us in on her revolutionary 4x4 shopping method that multiplies your outfit options without multiplying your spending. She's also got the ultimate wardrobe audit process to help us make sure we're doing the most we can to find new homes for the clothes we don't love anymore. Plus, Mia Freedman drops in for a bonus chat about mastering the pre-loved fashion game—perfect for anyone ready to refresh this financial new year without the splurge. Mamamia studios are styled with furniture from Fenton and Fenton visit www.fentonandfenton.com.au EVERYTHING MENTIONED: Kim's Budget: Assembly Label Sadie Coat $280 Leigh's Budget: Target Premium Suede Leather Bucket Tote Bag - Khaki $80 Kim's Boujie: Camilla and Marc Donato Coat $1100 Leigh's Boujie: Oroton Mica Workmanship Small Bowler $899 GET YOUR FASHION FIX: Leigh's Best Tips for Shopping on a Budget Watch us on Youtube Follow us on Instagram Want to shop the pod? Sign up to the Nothing To Wear Newsletter to see all the products mentioned plus more, delivered straight to your inbox after every episode. Feedback? We’re listening! Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au CREDITS: Host: Leigh Campbell Guest: Kim Crowley Producer: Ella Maitland Audio Producer: Tina Matolov Video Producer: Marlena Cacciotti Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    13 Elo 31min

    The $4,800 Perfume Secret & Why Some Scents Don't Suit You!

    The $4,800 Perfume Secret & Why Some Scents Don't Suit You!

    The fragrance deep dive continues! In Part 2 with Ethan Archer from Agence De Parfum, we're uncovering the luxury secrets the perfume world doesn't want you to know. What makes a perfume cost £4,800? Why does the same scent smell incredible on your friend but terrible on you? And is there really a "universal" fragrance that works on absolutely everyone? Ethan reveals the most expensive perfume in his collection, the weirdest fragrance notes he's ever encountered (hint: one involves blood), and the shocking science behind why your skin chemistry can make or break a scent. Plus, he attempts the ultimate challenge - matching Kelly with her perfect fragrance based on her personality alone. From the trillion scents your nose can detect to the survival instinct that makes us all love the smell of rain, this episode is packed with fragrance secrets that'll completely change your perfume game! PRODUCTS MENTIONED: Not a Perfume by Juliette Has a Gun $235 Oud Luxe by Roja Dove $4,899 Addictive Arts Jump Up and Kiss Me Ecstatic by Clive Christian $895 BRANDS MENTIONED: Roja Dove Clive Christian Juliette Has a Gun Libertine Parfumerie FOR MORE WHERE THIS CAME FROM: Watch & Subscribe on YouTube – Part 1 of our chat with Ethan drops tonight at 7pm! Catch it here. Follow us on Instagram: @youbeautypodcast Follow us on TikTok: @youbeautypod Join our You Beauty Facebook Group here For our product recommendations, exclusive beauty news, reviews, articles, deals and much more - sign up for our free You Beauty weekly newsletter here Subscribe to Mamamia here GET IN TOUCH: Got a beauty question you want answered? Email us at youbeauty@mamamia.com.au or send us a voicenote at Instagram and one of our Podcast Producers will come back to you ASAP. You Beauty is a podcast by Mamamia. Listen to more Mamamia podcasts here. Want $10 + a free month of Mamamia? We've got you.We're cooking up something exciting and need your brilliant opinions to help us make even better content.It's just 20 minutes of your time, and you'll get: $10 e-gift card 1 month Mamamia subscription (or gift it to someone if you're already a subscriber) Survey hereT&Cs here CREDITS: Hosts: Kelly McCarren Guest: Ethan Archer, (Perfume Aficionado & National Training Manager at Agency De Parfum) Producer: Sophie Campbell Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler Mamamia's studios are furnished with thanks to Fenton & Fenton. For more head to their website here. Just so you know — some of the product links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping! Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    11 Elo 13min

    Pharmacy Counter Secrets & Treating Your Neck Like Your Face

    Pharmacy Counter Secrets & Treating Your Neck Like Your Face

    Time to decode the confusing world of skincare acids! Leigh & Kelly are breaking down azelaic acid - the ingredient that's suddenly everywhere and explaining why it's perfect for rosacea sufferers who can't handle retinol. Then they're tackling the dreaded neck situation! How do you deal with lines and crepey skin that seems to appear overnight? They're sharing why your regular face retinol might be too harsh for this delicate area, plus revealing the affordable and luxury options that actually work. Spoiler: you need to treat your neck like a separate skincare routine, not just an afterthought! EVERYTHING MENTIONED: Naturium Azelaic Topical Acid 10% $39.95 Azclear Action Medicated Lotion 25g $21.95 Paula's Choice 10% Azelaic Acid Booster $62.00 La Roche Posay Effaclar A.Z. Gel Cream 40ml $45.99 HelloSkin Azelaic Acid 20% w/w Serum $59.99 Dr Naomi Hit The Dec $149.00 RoC Derm Correxion Contour Cream 50ml $49.99 No7 Restore & Renew FACE & NECK $59.99 Skin Ceuticals Tripeptide-R Retinol Neck Repair Cream $249.00 bareMinerals Ageless Phyto-Retinol Neck Cream 50g Ageless $118 Fresh Black Tea Firming Corset Cream $155 HIFU Treatment Non-Surgical Medical Aesthetic Skin Tightening Treatments The Golden Hour Facial $265 FOR MORE WHERE THIS CAME FROM: Watch & Subscribe on YouTube – Our Q&A episode drops tonight at 7pm! Catch it here. Follow us on Instagram: @youbeautypodcast Follow us on TikTok: @youbeautypod Join our You Beauty Facebook Group here For our product recommendations, exclusive beauty news, reviews, articles, deals and much more - sign up for our free You Beauty weekly newsletter here Subscribe to Mamamia here GET IN TOUCH: Got a beauty question you want answered? Email us at youbeauty@mamamia.com.au or send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will come back to you ASAP. You Beauty is a podcast by Mamamia. Listen to more Mamamia podcasts here. Want $10 + a free month of Mamamia? We've got you.We're cooking up something exciting and need your brilliant opinions to help us make even better content.It's just 20 minutes of your time, and you'll get: $10 e-gift card 1 month Mamamia subscription (or gift it to someone if you're already a subscriber) Survey hereT&Cs here CREDITS: Hosts: Leigh Campbell & Kelly McCarren Producer: Sophie Campbell & Ella Maitland Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris Mamamia's studios are furnished with thanks to Fenton & Fenton. For more head to their website here. Just so you know — some of the links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping! Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    10 Elo 19min

    The $7 Skincare Lifesaver & BIG W's Secret Foundation

    The $7 Skincare Lifesaver & BIG W's Secret Foundation

    Plot twist: the skincare aisle is serving up your skincare miracle products that cost less than a coffee, and your new holy grail foundation might be hiding at Big W! On today's Spendy Savey episode, we're celebrating the beauty finds that prove expensive doesn't always mean better. Kelly's uncovered a $7 hypochlorous acid spray that's about to change your skincare game, while Leigh's fallen for a $26 two-in-one foundation that's doing the work of multiple products. We're testing luxury cleansers that look like liquid bronze, sampling eyeshadow palettes with shocking pigmentation for pocket change, and discovering why cushion foundations are the travel essential you never knew you needed. EVERYTHING MENTIONED: SPENDY: Leigh: Merit Great Skin Double Cleanse Face Wash $51 (Launching August 12th) Kelly: (Blueberry) Laneige Glaze Craze Tinted Lip Serum $30Leigh: (Peach Glaze) Laneige Glaze Craze Tinted Lip Serum $30 SAVEY: Kelly: Loske Daily Rescue Facial Spray $6.99 Leigh: KIND Collective SuperHero 2-in-1 Foundation and Concealer $26 NEWBIES: Leigh: SkinCeuticals A.G.E Interrupter Ultra Serum $265 Kelly: Morphe Flickering Sands Eyeshadow Palette $21 SHOP MY STASH/EMPTY: Kelly: TirTir Mask Fit Red Cushion $49.95 Leigh: Kerasilk Strengthening Bond Builder $50 FOR MORE WHERE THIS CAME FROM: Watch & Subscribe on YouTube, this episode drops tonight at 7pm! Catch it here. Follow us on Instagram: @youbeautypodcast Follow us on TikTok: @youbeautypod Join our You Beauty Facebook Group here For our product recommendations, exclusive beauty news, reviews, articles, deals and much more - sign up for our free You Beauty weekly newsletter here Subscribe to Mamamia here GET IN TOUCH: Got a beauty question you want answered? Email us at youbeauty@mamamia.com.au or send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will come back to you ASAP. You Beauty is a podcast by Mamamia. Listen to more Mamamia podcasts here. Want $10 + a free month of Mamamia? We've got you.We're cooking up something exciting and need your brilliant opinions to help us make even better content.It's just 20 minutes of your time, and you'll get: $10 e-gift card 1 month Mamamia subscription (or gift it to someone if you're already a subscriber) Here is the survey and T&Cs links but please let me know if you need anything else from me xSurvey hereT&Cs here CREDITS: Hosts: Leigh Campbell & Kelly McCarren Producer: Sophie Campbell & Ella Maitland Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler Video Producer: Marlena Cacciotti Mamamia's studios are furnished with thanks to Fenton & Fenton. For more head to their website here. Just so you know — some of the links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping! Want $10 + a free month of Mamamia? We've got you.We're cooking up something exciting and need your brilliant opinions to help us make even better content.It's just 20 minutes of your time, and you'll get: $10 e-gift card 1 month Mamamia subscription (or gift it to someone if you're already a subscriber) Here is the survey and T&Cs links but please let me know if you need anything else from me xSurvey hereT&Cs here Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    7 Elo 23min

    Style Inspo: Grace Lam's No BS Guide to Building Your Fashion Confidence

    Style Inspo: Grace Lam's No BS Guide to Building Your Fashion Confidence

    On this weeks fashion drop, Leigh's joined by Bespoke Style Enhancer Grace Lam who has seen it all, styled everyone, and isn't afraid to tell you the truth about your wardrobe! After 25 years working with the biggest names in fashion (including a decade at Vogue China), Grace has landed in Melbourne with some serious opinions about how we dress. She runs us through her new brand crushes, her thrifting tips and tricks, and we find out how a simple sock upgrade can transform your entire look. She's also got the ultimate reality check: most of us can't see what's in our overstuffed wardrobes, so how can we wear it? Grace doesn't follow trends—she creates her own rules! EVERYTHING MENTIONED: Grace's Budget: MUJI Andes Wool Cable Stitch Crewneck Swearer $129 Happy Socks Gorman Socks Paire Underwear Leigh's Budget: UNIQLO JW Anderson Heattech Scarf $39.90 Grace's Boujie: LOWF Apparel Axis Quilted Vest $239 Best Double Breasted Jacket $655 THE FLOORR App Leigh's Boujie: Onitsuka Tiger Mexico 66 Slip-On $160 GET YOUR FASHION FIX: Watch us on Youtube Follow us on Instagram Want to shop the pod? Sign up to the Nothing To Wear Newsletter to see all the products mentioned plus more, delivered straight to your inbox after every episode. Feedback? We’re listening! Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au CREDITS: Host: Leigh Campbell Guest: Grace Lam Producer: Mollie Harwood & Ella Maitland Audio Producer: Tina Matolov Video Producer: Marlena Cacciotti Just so you know — some of the links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping! Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    6 Elo 28min

    The Ultimate Fragrance Deep Dive: From 500-Year-Old Scents To Modern Obsessions

    The Ultimate Fragrance Deep Dive: From 500-Year-Old Scents To Modern Obsessions

    What secrets does someone who works with the world's most exclusive perfume brands and has 76 fragrances in their personal collection actually know that the rest of us don't? In this week's episode, Kelly gets the ultimate fragrance education from Ethan Archer from Agency De Parfum! We're getting mind-blowing facts like why there are fewer professional perfumers than astronauts, the 800-year-old perfume house still making bestsellers, and which 500-year-old fragrance from 1533 is still flying off shelves. Plus, Ethan reveals he's wearing EIGHT sprays of perfume right now, why your nose goes blind to your own scent, and the real reason some people can't smell that they stink. We dive into whether seasonal fragrance switching is marketing or psychology, why dupes are like polyester couture, the truth about fragrance storage and expiration dates, and whether you need one signature scent or an entire fragrance wardrobe. From wedding day fragrance consultations to proper layering techniques, this episode will change how you think about scent forever. There's so much more fragrance wisdom coming in part 2 next week... LINKS TO THE PRODUCTS MENTIONED: Chanel No. 5 $210 Jicky by Guerlain $275 Shalimar by Guerlain $176 Acqua Colonia by Santa Maria Novella (from 1533) $249 Green Irish Tweed by Creed $499 Eladaria by Creed $489 Torino 21 by Xerjoff $359 Guidance by Amouage $599 Aventus by Creed $539 Outlands by Amouage $759 Do Son by Diptyque $191 Amouage Reflection Woman $499 Elizabeth Arden Green Tea Brands mentioned: Santa Maria Novella Creed GUERLAIN The House of Amouage Diptyque Xerjoff Clive Christian Libertine Parfumerie FOR MORE WHERE THIS CAME FROM: Watch & Subscribe on YouTube – Part 1 of our chat with Ethan drops tonight at 7pm! Catch it here. Follow us on Instagram: @youbeautypodcast Follow us on TikTok: @youbeautypod Join our You Beauty Facebook Group here For our product recommendations, exclusive beauty news, reviews, articles, deals and much more - sign up for our free You Beauty weekly newsletter here Subscribe to Mamamia here GET IN TOUCH: Got a beauty question you want answered? Email us at youbeauty@mamamia.com.au or send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will come back to you ASAP. You Beauty is a podcast by Mamamia. Listen to more Mamamia podcasts here. CREDITS: Hosts: Kelly McCarren Guest: Ethan Archer, (Perfume Aficionado & National Training Manager at Agency De Parfum) Producer: Sophie Campbell Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler Mamamia's studios are furnished with thanks to Fenton & Fenton. For more head to their website here. Just so you know — some of the product links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping! Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    4 Elo 26min

    Why Your Mascara Needs to Go & Your Hair Needs Lube

    Why Your Mascara Needs to Go & Your Hair Needs Lube

    Time to spring clean your makeup stash! Leigh & Kelly are tackling the overwhelming task of decluttering your beauty collection without keeping "just in case" products forever. They're breaking down expiry dates (spoiler: powders last way longer than liquids!), sharing storage tips that actually matter, and revealing why that mascara you've been hoarding needs to go immediately. Plus, Kelly's got the ultimate deep-clean routine for your brushes and tools that goes way beyond your regular wash. Then they're solving the slicked-back hair dilemma! How do you get that chic, editorial look without looking like you haven't washed your hair in a week? They're covering the blonde vs brunette difference (it's huge!), sharing their favourite brushes and products to get the perfect look. EVERYTHING MENTIONED: Kmart OXX Haircare Styling Brush - Black $6 Adore Beauty ELEVEN Australia Smooth Me Now Flyaway Balm $27.95 Color Wow Cult Favorite Firm + Flexible Hairspray $26 L'oreal Elnett Flexible Hold | 75mL $4.50 No Nasties Kids Plant Based Kids Hair Gel in Zesty Lime and Fresh Mint 125mL $21.95 Dermal Therapy Crystal Deodorant $8.99 Glow Up on Netflix FOR MORE WHERE THIS CAME FROM: Watch & Subscribe on YouTube – Our Q&A Episode drops tonight at 7pm! Catch it here. Follow us on Instagram: @youbeautypodcast Follow us on TikTok: @youbeautypod Join our You Beauty Facebook Group here For our product recommendations, exclusive beauty news, reviews, articles, deals and much more - sign up for our free You Beauty weekly newsletter here Subscribe to Mamamia here GET IN TOUCH: Got a beauty question you want answered? Email us at youbeauty@mamamia.com.au or send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will come back to you ASAP. You Beauty is a podcast by Mamamia. Listen to more Mamamia podcasts here. CREDITS: Hosts: Leigh Campbell & Kelly McCarren Producer: Sophie Campbell & Ella Maitland Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris Mamamia's studios are furnished with thanks to Fenton & Fenton. For more head to their website here. Just so you know — some of the links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping! Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    3 Elo 24min

    $13 Amazon Finds & Retinol For Your Whole Body

    $13 Amazon Finds & Retinol For Your Whole Body

    Attention beauty lovers: the most exciting makeup launch at Priceline isn't from the brands you'd expect, and retinol isn't just for your face anymore! On today's Spendy Savey episode, we're celebrating the art of the beauty bargain hunt and the joy of luxury discoveries. Leigh's fallen down an Amazon rabbit hole and emerged with $13 worth of cream colour magic, while Kelly's treating her entire body to retinol luxury for less than $25. We're testing hydrating mists that blur the line between skincare and makeup, sampling fragrance wardrobes that fit in your palm, and exploring why German-engineered cosmetics are quietly taking over Australian beauty cabinets. EVERYTHING MENTIONED: SPENDY: Leigh: Cosmedix Mystic Hydrating Treatment $75Kelly: Nest Perfume Oil Discovery Set $95 SAVEY: Leigh: Dragon Rance Multi Functional Eye Shadow Sticks $12.99 Kelly: Advanced Clinicals Retinol Advanced Firming Cream $23.27 NEWBIES: Leigh: Catrice Kelly: Rare Beauty Positive Light Luminizing Lip Gloss $36.00 SHOP MY STASH/EMPTY: Leigh: Ouai Super Dry Shampoo $52.00Kelly: Boldify Root Powder $29.99 FOR MORE WHERE THIS CAME FROM: Watch & Subscribe on YouTube, this episode drops tonight at 7pm! Catch it here. Follow us on Instagram: @youbeautypodcast Follow us on TikTok: @youbeautypod Join our You Beauty Facebook Group here For our product recommendations, exclusive beauty news, reviews, articles, deals and much more - sign up for our free You Beauty weekly newsletter here Subscribe to Mamamia here GET IN TOUCH: Got a beauty question you want answered? Email us at youbeauty@mamamia.com.au or send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will come back to you ASAP. You Beauty is a podcast by Mamamia. Listen to more Mamamia podcasts here. CREDITS: Hosts: Leigh Campbell & Kelly McCarren Producer: Sophie Campbell & Ella Maitland Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler Video Producer: Marlena Cacciotti Mamamia's studios are furnished with thanks to Fenton & Fenton. For more head to their website here. Just so you know — some of the links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping! Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    31 Heinä 23min

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