Beyond the Noise - the PRWeek podcast9 Loka 2025

PR’s DEI ‘hypocrites’ attacked on PRWeek podcast

PR’s pay gaps, and its DEI efforts in general, are under the spotlight in PRWeek’s latest Beyond the Noise podcast.

It follows the publication this week of the latest Pay Gaps Report from PRWeek and People Like Us, which sees agencies reveal their gender and ethnicity pay gaps.

Click here to read the PRWeek Pay Gaps Report

Our guests are People Like Us co-founder Sheeraz Gulsher and the bosses of two agencies that took part in the Pay Gaps Report: Heather Blundell, UK CEO at Grayling, and Pam Scobbie, co-founder and CCO of John Doe Group.

Beyond the Noise looks at some of the biggest issues affecting communications and PR. Download the podcast via Apple, Spotify, or listen on your favourite platform.

Speaking to PRWeek UK editor John Harrington, the guests give their take on the overall findings of the ground-breaking report. This includes some stiff criticism of the lack of participation among the UK’s biggest PR agencies.

They discuss why gender and ethnicity pay gaps might still exist and scrutise the industry’s efforts to close them.

Blundell and Scobbie give examples of some of the work they have done to promote diversity, equity and inclusion at their agencies. And the guests offer advice to PR firms that want to make progress in these areas.

As PRWeek earlier reported, the Grayling and John Doe bosses criticised the recent pattern of female leaders at UK comms agencies being replaced by men.

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