195. Peter Sunna, CPO, Kognic – How We Win: Why Kognic’s CPO Ditched their Roadmap for a Strategy That Actually Aligns Teams
The SaaSiest Podcast9 Loka 2025

195. Peter Sunna, CPO, Kognic – How We Win: Why Kognic’s CPO Ditched their Roadmap for a Strategy That Actually Aligns Teams

In this episode, we’re joined by Peter Sunna (ex-Contentful, Commercetools), now leading product at Kognic, an annotation platform that helps cars “see” via camera & LiDAR for ADAS and autonomous driving. Peter shares why he downplays traditional roadmaps in favor of a company-wide “How We Win” operating system, aligning teams on target segment, differentiation, and the strategic power to compound.

We dive into the automotive software shift, safety-critical AI, and how to build defensibility when AI keeps redefining what’s feasible, sometimes in months. Peter explains how to keep Sales, Product, Marketing, and CS selling and building the same thing so strategy drives the plan, not a feature laundry list.

Here are some of the key questions we address:

  • How do you replace feature roadmaps with a "How We Win" system that aligns every team and still tells customers what matters next?

  • What does differentiation look like in practice and which power are you compounding (process, network effects, brand, switching costs, etc.)?

  • When you’re early and have no moat, how do you use counter-positioning and when do you evolve to a more durable power?

  • Depth vs. breadth: should you go deeper on a few use cases or widen to adjacent ones, and how do you decide?

  • How do you sell a new workflow into enterprises (crossing the chasm) when existing org structures resist change?

  • With AI rapidly changing what’s feasible, how do you plan, defend your margins, and avoid being automated away?

🎧 Tune in to hear how Peter turns strategy into an everyday operating cadence proving that in B2B, roadmaps don’t win markets; clarity on how you win does.

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194. Frida Ahrenby, CMO, Rillion – From Zero to 10: How Frida Ahrenby Built a Lean, High-Output Marketing Team at Rillion

194. Frida Ahrenby, CMO, Rillion – From Zero to 10: How Frida Ahrenby Built a Lean, High-Output Marketing Team at Rillion

In this episode, we’re joined by Frida Ahrenby, CMO at Rillion, the AP automation platform expanding aggressively in the US with a new Austin hub. Frida breaks down how she rebuilt marketing from zero...

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193. Barbara Matthews, Chief People Officer, Remote - Goodbye 6-Week Reviews. Hello 48 Hours. The Playbook for Modern Performance Reviews: Fast, Fair, and Scalable

193. Barbara Matthews, Chief People Officer, Remote - Goodbye 6-Week Reviews. Hello 48 Hours. The Playbook for Modern Performance Reviews: Fast, Fair, and Scalable

In this episode, we’re joined by Barbara Matthews, Chief People Officer at Remote, the Series C company with 1800 employees across 85 countries building an end-to-end global HR platform. Barbara share...

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192. Ruan Smit, Senior SEO Specialist, Sendcloud - From SEO to GEO: How to Win Visibility in the Age of AI Search!

192. Ruan Smit, Senior SEO Specialist, Sendcloud - From SEO to GEO: How to Win Visibility in the Age of AI Search!

In this episode, we’re joined by Ruan Smit, SEO & Growth leader at Sendcloud, the leading shipping platform helping 30,000+ e-commerce brands connect carriers, print labels, and turn delivery into a c...

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191. Lukas Saari, CEO & Co-Founder, Tandem Health - SaaS isn’t just about technology, but about truly understanding the people you serve!

191. Lukas Saari, CEO & Co-Founder, Tandem Health - SaaS isn’t just about technology, but about truly understanding the people you serve!

In this episode, we’re joined by Lukas Saari, CEO and Co-Founder of Tandem Health, the AI-driven platform transforming how clinicians and healthcare teams work together to deliver better patient outco...

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190. Marili 't Hooft - Bolle, CEO, Trengo - Leading with AI: How Trengo’s CEO Future-Proofs Teams and Culture

190. Marili 't Hooft - Bolle, CEO, Trengo - Leading with AI: How Trengo’s CEO Future-Proofs Teams and Culture

In this episode, we’re joined by Marili 't Hooft-Bolle, CEO, Trengo, the AI-powered omnichannel customer engagement platform that unifies messaging across email, WhatsApp, live chat, social media, and...

20 Elo 202554min

189. Sander Van Gelderen, CMO, Effectory - Why MQLs Aren’t Enough and How ABX Is Closing the Gap

189. Sander Van Gelderen, CMO, Effectory - Why MQLs Aren’t Enough and How ABX Is Closing the Gap

In this episode, we’re joined by Sander van Gelderen, CMO at Effectory, an employee listening solution platform helping organizations measure and improve engagement, enablement, and productivity at sc...

13 Elo 202550min

188. Charles Tenot, CEO, Lemlist - How to Build an Efficient Executive Team

188. Charles Tenot, CEO, Lemlist - How to Build an Efficient Executive Team

In this episode, we’re joined by Charles Tenot, CEO of Lemlist - the bootstrapped sales engagement platform scaling past €36M ARR while staying lean, profitable, and fast-moving. Charles took the rein...

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187. Scaling Smart, Staying Human: How HiBob Is Getting IPO-Ready with Ronni Zehavi

187. Scaling Smart, Staying Human: How HiBob Is Getting IPO-Ready with Ronni Zehavi

In this episode, we’re joined by Ronni Zehavi, Co-Founder and CEO of HiBob—one of the fastest-growing HR tech platforms on the planet. With nearly 5,000 customers across the globe, HiBob is redefining...

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