The Truth About Crypto AI Infrastructure with Nick Emmons and Danny Sursock
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The Truth About Crypto AI Infrastructure with Nick Emmons and Danny Sursock

Most crypto AI is just speculation wrapped in infrastructure buzzwords.

In this episode of AI Supercycle, we sit down with Nick Emmons from Allora Network and Danny Sursock from Archetype VC to cut through the hype and discuss what actually matters in crypto AI infrastructure.


We discuss:

- Speculative Assets vs. Real AI Solutions

- Objective-Centric AI: The Intent Model for Models

- The Right Benchmarks for Each Layer of the AI Stack

- Why Decentralization Shouldn't Kill Functionality

- DeFi Agents: Beyond Capital Formation

- Allora's Mainnet Launch Timeline

- The Shortest Path From Model Creation to Value Capture


Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

01:10 The Current State of Crypto AI

04:34 Speculative Assets vs Infrastructure That Actually Works

06:55 Building Real AI Infrastructure

08:26 Hibachi Ad, Talus Ad

09:10 Objective-Centric AI: Why Intent Models Change Everything

14:21 The Right Benchmarks for AI (Stop Using the Wrong Metrics)

19:26 Enso Ad, Recall Ad, Relay Ad

21:26 The Economic Verifiability Model Explained

25:38 Blending Web2 & Web3 AI Principles (What Works from Both)

27:57 Decentralized vs Distributed: The Critical Difference

30:17 Market Coordination in AI (How Value Actually Forms)

32:27 Capital Formation Evolution in Crypto AI

37:10 Coordination as the Real Value Driver

39:33 Hyperfinancialization & AI Agents: The Convergence

41:45 Allora Mainnet Update: When It's Actually Launching


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đ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

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Proof Of Governance, Storm on Ownership and Institutional Adoption with Arjun Bhuptani, John Adler and JJ

Proof Of Governance, Storm on Ownership and Institutional Adoption with Arjun Bhuptani, John Adler and JJ

The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Mantle: https://www.mantle.xyz/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Summer: https://summer.fi/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-disclTimestamps00:00 - Introduction02:01 - Current State of the Bull Market.05:01 - Insights on BTC and Ethereum trends.10:01 - Digital Asset Treasuries 15:01 - Arjun Bhatani on Digital Asset Flows.20:01 - Proof of governance with John Adler.25:01 - The Future of Yield in Crypto Apps.đ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

23 HeinÀ 1h 42min

The Monad Thesis With James Hunsaker

The Monad Thesis With James Hunsaker

High-frequency trading is meeting blockchain reality, but the result isn't what you think.In today's episode, we sit down with James Hunsaker from Monad to cut through the throughput hype. While everyone debates TPS numbers, James explains why latency and economic incentives are the real bottlenecks holding back crypto adoption.This conversation challenges assumptions about what high-performance blockchain infrastructure really needs to deliver.Let's dive into it.The Rollup---Newton is the trust layer for autonomous finance. Smart. Secure. Verifiable. Built for a future where AI agents replace apps and interfaces. Learn more here: https://www.magicnewton.com/Get effortless access to crypto's best DeFi yields. Continually rebalanced by AI powered Keepers to earn you more while saving you time and reducing costs. Learn more here: https://summer.fi/earn?referralCode=2000096----Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=7230787bb90947efPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-disclđ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

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How Wall Street Learned To Love Tokenization with Michael Sonnenshein

How Wall Street Learned To Love Tokenization with Michael Sonnenshein

The tokenized RWA market just hit $25B. Is this institutional adoption or just hype dressed up in compliance theater?In today's episode, we sit down with Michael Sonnenshein, COO of Securitize, to explore what's really happening. With nearly $4B in tokenized assets and partnerships with BlackRock and Apollo, Securitize is leading the charge.We dive into why Wall Street is embracing tokenization now, what makes their "native" approach different, and the risks everyone's overlooking in the rush to tokenize everything.Let's get into it.The Rollup---Newton is the trust layer for autonomous finance. Smart. Secure. Verifiable. Built for a future where AI agents replace apps and interfaces. Learn more here: https://www.magicnewton.com/Get effortless access to crypto's best DeFi yields. Continually rebalanced by AI powered Keepers to earn you more while saving you time and reducing costs. Learn more here: https://summer.fi/earn?referralCode=2000096----Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=7230787bb90947efPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-disclđ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

18 HeinÀ 34min

The Signal, Boundless Mainnet Launch, Wormhole’s RWA Focus, New Chief AI Officer at Story Protocol with Tomer Weller, Shiv Shankar, Sreeram Kannan, Robinson Burkey, Declan Fox & MichaƂ Zając

The Signal, Boundless Mainnet Launch, Wormhole’s RWA Focus, New Chief AI Officer at Story Protocol with Tomer Weller, Shiv Shankar, Sreeram Kannan, Robinson Burkey, Declan Fox & MichaƂ Zając

The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Mantle: https://www.mantle.xyz/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Summer: https://summer.fi/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-disclTimestamps00:00 Introduction 05:00 Tomer from Stellar 20:00 Shiv from Boundless35:00 Sreeram from EigenCloud50:00 Robinson Burkey from Wormhole01:05:00 Declan from Linea01:20:00 Michael from Nethermind01:35:00 Closing Remarks đ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

18 HeinÀ 2h 17min

Why You Should Question Proof-of-Stake As The Default with Jon Charbonneau

Why You Should Question Proof-of-Stake As The Default with Jon Charbonneau

lockchain architecture is far from as settled as we’ve been told.In today's episode, we sit down with Jon Charbonneau, co-founder of DBA, live from Permissionless to challenge some of crypto's most accepted design decisions.Jon questions whether Proof-of-Stake should remain the default consensus mechanism and explores where Proof-of-Governance fits into the future. . We also talk about the security risks as L1s push token inflation toward zero and whether Celestia's move toward data availability fees is hinting at a bigger shift in modular stacks.Plus, we take a closer look at Ethereum’s plan to cut slot times from 12 to 6 seconds and ask which blockchain design assumptions need a second look.Let's get into it.The Rollup---Newton is the trust layer for autonomous finance. Smart. Secure. Verifiable. Built for a future where AI agents replace apps and interfaces. Learn more here: https://www.magicnewton.com/Get effortless access to crypto's best DeFi yields. Continually rebalanced by AI powered Keepers to earn you more while saving you time and reducing costs. Learn more here: https://summer.fi/earn?referralCode=2000096----Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=7230787bb90947efPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-disclđ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

16 HeinÀ 24min

Dormant BTC Whale Offloading Billions, Tokenization Mania, Ethereum Goes All-In on ZK and Songcoins with Karel Kubat, Michael Sonnenshein and Cooper Turley

Dormant BTC Whale Offloading Billions, Tokenization Mania, Ethereum Goes All-In on ZK and Songcoins with Karel Kubat, Michael Sonnenshein and Cooper Turley

The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Mantle: https://www.mantle.xyz/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Summer: https://summer.fi/Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-disclTimestamps00:00 Introduction02:15 Crypto Week in the USA10:45 Union's Big Announcement25:30 Securitize's Tokenization Journey40:00 Songcoins and Music Innovation55:00 Closing Remarksđ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

16 HeinÀ 1h 35min

How Blockchain Fixes AI's Biggest Problem with Anand Iyer

How Blockchain Fixes AI's Biggest Problem with Anand Iyer

What if the future of AGI isn't owned by a handful of tech giants?In today's episode, we sit down with an Anand Iyer, a prominent AI crypto investor who's been living in the trenches of both worlds to explore how $300 billion has flowed into centralized AI versus just $1 billion into decentralized AI and why this disparity creates the biggest opportunity. We dig into the push to give AI ownership back to the people and a bold prediction: the next billion-dollar project might be coded by just one developer and launched onchain.Let's explore.The Rollup---Newton is the trust layer for autonomous finance. Smart. Secure. Verifiable. Built for a future where AI agents replace apps and interfaces. Learn more here: https://www.magicnewton.com/Get effortless access to crypto's best DeFi yields. Continually rebalanced by AI powered Keepers to earn you more while saving you time and reducing costs. Learn more here: https://summer.fi/earn?referralCode=2000096----đ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

14 HeinÀ 53min

How Programmable IP Could Save Creators From Big Tech with S.Y. Lee

How Programmable IP Could Save Creators From Big Tech with S.Y. Lee

The intellectual property market is worth an estimated $70 trillion. But with AI endlessly creating new variations and evolving on its own, the question of "who owns what?" has never been more complex.This week, we’re sitting down with S.Y. Lee, co-founder of Story Protocol, to dive into what programmable IP really unlocks and the biggest misconceptions about digital ownership.As AI generates infinite possibilities and self-improving agents upgrade themselves, how do we even start thinking about attribution and ownership?This is no longer just a hypothetical issue. The choices we make now will shape whether creators can truly own their work (or if it all gets swallowed up by those with the biggest models).Time to jump in.The Rollup---Newton is the trust layer for autonomous finance. Smart. Secure. Verifiable. Built for a future where AI agents replace apps and interfaces. Learn more here: https://www.magicnewton.com/Get effortless access to crypto's best DeFi yields. Continually rebalanced by AI powered Keepers to earn you more while saving you time and reducing costs. Learn more here: https://summer.fi/earn?referralCode=2000096----Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd9vbF3hJA2n7qoL5?si=7230787bb90947efPodcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-disclđ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

11 HeinÀ 17min