Lights On with Carl Lentz15 Loka 2025

24-Year-Old Woman Built The Answer To Unplanned Pregnancy

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In this episode of Lights On, Carl and Laura Lentz sit down with 24-year-old Phoebe Enterman, founder of Plana - the app that's quietly solving America's adoption crisis. Moving from Brisbane, Australia to Las Vegas with nothing but conviction, Phoebe reveals the shocking truth: while 2 million couples desperately wait to adopt, less than 1% of unplanned pregnancies result in adoption. She exposes how both Planned Parenthood's structure and the pro-life movement's judgment have failed women who need real help, not politics.

Laura and Phoebe dive deep into the reality facing women with unplanned pregnancies - from the 65% of Christian women who hide pregnancies from their church out of fear, to the Harvard study showing 80% of women reconsider abortion when fathers stay present. They demolish the myth that adoption isn't chosen due to lack of families (there are 36 waiting families for every adoptable infant) and reveal the real problem: women don't know adoption is even an option in the digital age.

From Phoebe's personal story of why her grandmother's teenage pregnancy drives her mission, to Carl's explosive take on Christians who picket abortion clinics but won't pay a single mother's rent, this conversation transcends the tired abortion debate. They unveil how Plana's beautiful, wellness-focused app is replacing crisis-branded shame with actual solutions - connecting women to families, resources, education, and support all in one place.

Warning: This episode challenges both pro-life advocates who stop caring after birth and pro-choice supporters who only offer one choice. If you're more invested in your political stance than actually helping women and babies, this conversation will make you uncomfortable.

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Supported by Plana - https://plana.org/

CHAPTERS:

00:00 - Opening: Beyond Politics to Real Solutions

04:20 - Meet Phoebe: Why a 24-Year-Old Left Australia for This Mission

08:26 - The Personal Story Behind Plana

12:07 - Carl's "What's Your Name?" Moment on The View

15:36 - Inside an Unplanned Pregnancy: What Women Really Face

22:51 - The Church Problem: 65% Hide in Shame

27:05 - The Adoption Mystery: Less Than 1% When Millions Wait

32:16 - Why Adoption Lost to Better Marketing

38:59 - How Plana Works: The App Tour

43:15 - Planned Parenthood's Business Model vs. Plana's Approach

48:33 - The Father Factor: 80% Reconsider When Men Stay

52:40 - A Call to Churches: Beyond Voting to Action

57:14 - How to Support: The $9 Movement

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