Obsession, Secrets, and Sleight of Hand: Inside the Hidden World of Modern Magicians with Ian Frisch

Obsession, Secrets, and Sleight of Hand: Inside the Hidden World of Modern Magicians with Ian Frisch

A Note from James

I’ve always loved books where a journalist gets so deep into a subculture that they become part of it. Magic Is Dead by Ian Frisch is one of those. He starts out covering a secret society of magicians—“The 52,” named for the cards in a deck—and ends up becoming one of them.

It reminded me of other favorites like Word Freak (Scrabble), The Game (pickup artists), and Moonwalking with Einstein (memory champions). I love that genre of participation—when curiosity turns into obsession and then into mastery.

Ian’s journey pulled me right in. He didn’t just report on the world of magicians; he lived in it, practiced card tricks until his hands hurt, and learned how obsession, storytelling, and performance shape every great craft. Talking to him made me think about how every one of us could benefit from being part of more than one “world”—to have different lives, different subcultures where we’re known and respected for something unique. That’s real diversification. Not just financial, but personal.


Episode Description

In this episode, James talks with journalist and author Ian Frisch about his book Magic Is Dead: My Journey into the World’s Most Secretive Society of Magicians and what it means to go all-in on obsession.

They explore the underground network of modern magicians reinventing the art for the social-media age—tattoos, streetwear, viral videos, and all—and what these creative subcultures can teach the rest of us about mastery, storytelling, and risk.

It’s a conversation about transformation: how curiosity becomes discipline, and how the principles behind sleight of hand apply to persuasion, business, and everyday life.


What You’ll Learn

  • Why obsession—not balance—is often the key to getting great at something
  • How social media reshaped the art and culture of modern magic
  • The real psychology behind deception, storytelling, and human connection
  • How magicians build trust with skeptical audiences (and what leaders can learn from it)
  • Why belonging to multiple “worlds” or subcultures creates resilience and happiness


Timestamped Chapters

  • [00:00] Introduction — Obsession as a superpower
  • [03:00] A Note from James — The journalist who became a magician
  • [06:00] Participatory journalism and the power of total immersion
  • [10:00] What makes this genre work: transformation and obsession
  • [11:30] Discovering the new generation of social-media magicians
  • [14:00] From top hats to tattoos: how magic reinvented itself online
  • [18:30] The challenge of trust when magic meets video editing
  • [20:30] The return of live magic and the human reaction
  • [23:30] Subcultures, hierarchies, and belonging
  • [26:00] Magic as a social tool for outsiders
  • [29:00] How magicians train for a decade to master their craft
  • [37:00] Ian’s own training: learning sleight of hand as an adult
  • [40:00] The poker connection and card control secrets
  • [44:00] Why mystery matters more than the trick itself
  • [47:00] Storytelling, psychology, and reading people
  • [52:00] Applying magician skills to real-world persuasion
  • [54:00] Comedy, showmanship, and performance overlap
  • [55:30] The secret societies of magic and “The 52”
  • [58:30] Competition, creativity, and the economics of exclusivity
  • [01:00:40] How Ian earned his place as the “Two of Clubs”
  • [01:03:00] Inventing a new trick and becoming part of the story


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Risky Business: A Teen, A Nightclub, and a Ponzi Scheme | Ian Bick - Part 1

Risky Business: A Teen, A Nightclub, and a Ponzi Scheme | Ian Bick - Part 1

Before he could legally drink, Ian Bick was already in the thick of the nightclub scene, not as a patron, but as the owner of Tuxedo Junction in Connecticut. Drawing from the excitement of youthful partying, Bick's events were anything but your typical high school get-togethers. But when the glitz started to fade, and the revenue wasn't flowing as he'd imagined, desperation knocked on his door. Instead of seeking advice or potentially shutting down, Bick veered down a dangerous path, one that entangled him in a web of deceit, old debts, and new investors. On this episode of the James Altucher Show, hear from Ian Bick himself - how youthful ambition can quickly take a wrong turn, and how a teenager found himself running a $500,000 Ponzi Scheme. From the highs of Tuxedo Junction to the lows of a prison cell, Bick's tale is a cautionary one, now featured on HBO Max's "Generation Hustle."Listen to Ian's Podcast: Locked In with Ian Bick | Podcast on SpotifyVisit Ian's Website: Ian Bick------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book Skip the Line is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltucher.com/podcast.------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe  to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsStitcheriHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on Social Media:YouTubeTwitterFacebook ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book, Skip the Line, is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltuchershow.com------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsiHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on social media:YouTubeTwitterFacebookLinkedIn See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

15 Elo 202351min

Beyond Stars and Conspiracies | A Cosmic Chat with Brian Keating

Beyond Stars and Conspiracies | A Cosmic Chat with Brian Keating

Ever wondered just how vast our universe truly is or if there's any truth to those compelling space conspiracies? In this episode of the James Altucher Show, James sits down with Brian Keating, a renowned astrophysicist, to delve deep into the cosmos. They chat about the groundbreaking findings from the James Webb Space Telescope, providing an intriguing glimpse into the universe's origins. But it's not all about distant galaxies; James throws in some of the most captivating space-related conspiracies he's come across, and with Brian's expertise, they sift fact from fiction. Plus, tune in to hear about the recent developments in the world of superconductors and the possibility of a room-temperature stable variant.From the enigma of extra-terrestrial life to the truth about the universe's beginning, this episode promises to be a blend of scientific insight and casual banter. Whether you're a science enthusiast or just someone who loves a good conspiracy theory, there's something in it for you!https://BrianKeating.com/listhttps://twitter.com/DrBrianKeatingBrian's Books and Brian's Blog, Listen to the Into The Impossible podcast,Check out Brian's YouTube channel, with a following of 140k followers and growing. ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book Skip the Line is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltucher.com/podcast.------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe  to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsStitcheriHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on Social Media:YouTubeTwitterFacebook ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book, Skip the Line, is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltuchershow.com------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsiHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on social media:YouTubeTwitterFacebookLinkedIn See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

10 Elo 20231h 32min

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The AI Horizon: Preserving Jobs and Crafting Personal AI Legacies | Brian Roemmele - Part 3

As we round out this enlightening three-part series with Brian Roemmele, we venture into the exciting future of AI. How can companies harness the transformative power of AI without jeopardizing jobs? We discuss the revolutionary concept of the "Personal AI" company, an innovative vision where a human's wisdom, personality, and essence can be synthesized through voice modeling, based on answers to a 1000-prompt questionnaire. Imagine a future where your knowledge, experiences, and insights could be immortalized, accessible to generations to come. Brian's groundbreaking perspective offers a glimpse into a future where technology and humanity converge in profound and lasting ways.----------What to write and publish a book in 30 days? Go toJamesAltucherShow.com/writingto join James' writing intensive!What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book Skip the Line is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltucher.com/podcast.------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe  to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsStitcheriHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on Social Media:YouTubeTwitterFacebook ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book, Skip the Line, is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltuchershow.com------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsiHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on social media:YouTubeTwitterFacebookLinkedIn See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

8 Elo 202353min

The Grand Mirror: AI as a Reflection of Humanity | Brian Roemmele - Part 2

The Grand Mirror: AI as a Reflection of Humanity | Brian Roemmele - Part 2

In Part 2 of this compelling three-part series with Brian Roemmele, we delve further into the complex world of AI, unraveling how it serves as a grand mirror reflecting humanity's knowledge, language, feelings, and emotions. Join us as we explore how AI, without the consciousness we're still struggling to comprehend, amplifies and magnifies our innate intelligence. Discover how AI is not an alien concept but an extension of our very nature, bridging the disparate facts gathered from our senses and offering new insights into what it means to be human. It's a journey that takes us closer to the core of what connects us all, unraveling the mysteries of memory, consciousness, and emotion. You won't want to miss this fascinating and enlightening episode.----------What to write and publish a book in 30 days? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/writing to join James' writing intensive!What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book Skip the Line is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltucher.com/podcast.------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe  to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsStitcheriHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on Social Media:YouTubeTwitterFacebook  ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book, Skip the Line, is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltuchershow.com------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsiHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on social media:YouTubeTwitterFacebookLinkedIn See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

3 Elo 20231h 18min

A Quantum Leap into AI and Consciousness | Brian Roemmele - Part 1

A Quantum Leap into AI and Consciousness | Brian Roemmele - Part 1

Join us in the first segment of a captivating three-part series with Brian Roemmele, one of the world's leading futurists and thought leaders on voice technology.In this episode, we delve deep into the riveting realms of intelligence and consciousness. We challenge the boundaries of your perception, engaging in a thought-provoking discussion about the implications of AI for our understanding of intelligence and the potential intersections with quantum mechanics. This conversation promises to leave you questioning what you thought you knew. And don't miss Brian's intriguing thoughts on the 'cure for outrage' - a timely exploration of how technology might just hold the key to bridging societal divisions.Stay tuned for the next episodes where we continue our voyage into the unknown with Brian, extending the conversation into the farthest reaches of future technology and its potential impact on humanity.-----------What to write and publish a book in 30 days? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/writing to join James' writing intensive!What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book Skip the Line is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltucher.com/podcast.------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe  to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsStitcheriHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on Social Media:YouTubeTwitterFacebook ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book, Skip the Line, is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltuchershow.com------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsiHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on social media:YouTubeTwitterFacebookLinkedIn See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

1 Elo 202351min

How To Ruin Your Life with a Quest

How To Ruin Your Life with a Quest

Whether you're on the edge of a life transition, reeling from a setback, or simply searching for a fresh perspective, this episode is your starting point. Join us as James dives deep into his unique technique of embarking on 'quests'- thoughtful journeys designed to answer life's perplexing questions or rebound from difficult times.-----------What to write and publish a book in 30 days? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/writing to join James' writing intensive!What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book Skip the Line is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltucher.com/podcast.------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe  to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsStitcheriHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on Social Media:YouTubeTwitterFacebook ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book, Skip the Line, is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltuchershow.com------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsiHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on social media:YouTubeTwitterFacebookLinkedIn See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

27 Heinä 202355min

Revolutionizing Gaming: The Legendary Creator of DOOM Speaks | John Romero

Revolutionizing Gaming: The Legendary Creator of DOOM Speaks | John Romero

Step into the world of legendary gaming as James Altucher sits down with none other than John Romero, the brilliant mind behind the groundbreaking first-person shooter, DOOM. Join us on this captivating episode of The James Altucher Show, as we delve into the fascinating journey of a visionary video game developer who revolutionized the gaming industry.For over three decades, FPS games have enthralled gamers worldwide, and DOOM stands tall as one of the pioneers that defined the genre. In this candid conversation, James reminisces about his exhilarating experiences with DOOM, which captured the hearts of millions with its unparalleled 3D graphics and immersive gameplay.John Romero takes us back to the inception of DOOM, sharing the challenges and triumphs he faced while creating this iconic masterpiece. Discover the secrets behind what makes a great game, as he imparts invaluable insights into the gaming business and industry, making this episode a must-listen for aspiring game developers.As a special treat, John Romero talks about his compelling book, Doom Guy: Life in First Person, offering a glimpse into the life of a gaming genius and the creative process that spawned a cultural phenomenon.Tune in to witness an engaging conversation filled with nostalgia, wisdom, and passion that continues to drive John Romero's indelible impact on the gaming world. Whether you're a seasoned gamer or simply curious about the magic behind the pixels, this episode will surely leave you inspired and entertained. Don't miss this rare opportunity to hear from the visionary mind behind DOOM, only on The James Altucher Show.-----------What to write and publish a book in 30 days? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/writing to join James' writing intensive!What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book Skip the Line is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltucher.com/podcast.------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe  to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsStitcheriHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on Social Media:YouTubeTwitterFacebook ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book, Skip the Line, is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltuchershow.com------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsiHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on social media:YouTubeTwitterFacebookLinkedIn See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

25 Heinä 202359min

The Real AI: Unmasking the Hype | Kevin Surace

The Real AI: Unmasking the Hype | Kevin Surace

Are we overhyping AI? Can it truly shape our future or devastate it? James Altucher, an AI veteran, brings a fresh perspective to the table, cutting through the buzz and fearmongering that often surrounds Artificial Intelligence.In this enlightening episode, James sits down with a true pioneer in the AI industry, Kevin Surace. Known for his instrumental role in developing Siri, and a series of impressive AI companies, Surace is here to demystify AI. Tune in as they delve deep into the real possibilities and limitations of AI, separate fact from fiction, and explore how you can harness this powerful technology to enhance your life.Don't miss this chance to hear from the frontlines of AI innovation, and remember: it's not about fearing the future-it's about shaping it.-----------What to write and publish a book in 30 days? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/writing to join James' writing intensive!What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book Skip the Line is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltucher.com/podcast.------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe  to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsStitcheriHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on Social Media:YouTubeTwitterFacebook ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book, Skip the Line, is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltuchershow.com------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsiHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on social media:YouTubeTwitterFacebookLinkedIn See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

20 Heinä 202351min

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