The Friends Vs Family Trap & We're All Rapunzel Now
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The Friends Vs Family Trap & We're All Rapunzel Now

Ever heard of 'Chatfishing’? Believe us, it's a thing, people, and may make you look at every message you receive in a whole new light. The trend is now to use ChatGPT for banter on dating apps and it’s leading to some awkward in-person dates.

The bus tour you did through Europe in your twenties has now been replaced with sunrise yoga and morning run clubs. We discuss why Gen Z is too sensible for that kind of wild fun with a bunch of strangers.

Do you treat your friends like family? And should you? There are pros and cons which we unpack.

Plus, the 'cunty bob' is out, and long hair is officially back in as we enter the Rapunzel age. But is long hair now a flex or an act of personal rebellion?

And all our best reccos including a must-listen podcast, a book Em wants you to read and a go-to 80’s beauty product that's back.

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Jessie thinks you should try the Matifying Primer by Laura Mercier OR the Glowy Primer by Go To
Holly wants you to listen to This is Why We Fight and The Gift
Em wants you to read Very Impressive for your Age by Eleanor Kirk

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22 Loka 201518min

Births, Deaths, and What Really Matters

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What was the moment you realised your relationship was over? Many of us say we want to leave the world a better place - this week we say goodbye to someone who actually did. Plus, confessions, obsessions, and what women are talking about this week. Your hosts are Monique Bowley, Mia Freedman and Jamila RizviMia recommends the Nike Training AppJam recommends Sticky9 for all your photos, delivered. Monique recommends watching The Beautiful Lie on the ABC (8:30pm Sundays or on iview).Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

22 Loka 201550min

BONUS: Bach Chat. The Bachelorette Recap. S1 E7 & 8

BONUS: Bach Chat. The Bachelorette Recap. S1 E7 & 8

Monique Bowley, Jo Robin, Lizzie Marton and Claire De Freitas hang out after work, watch the Bachelorette, and talk about their thoughts. This week, fun facts, families, and f**k me, someone's mum has already started asking about grandchildren. Warning: Contains spoilers Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

15 Loka 201534min

Three White Feminists

Three White Feminists

What a week. Zoo Magazine goes under. Playboy decides to stop all it's nudes. And Jennifer Lawrence writes a kick arse essay about the gender pay gap. Nice one. Also today, the worst thing you've been told in the workplace. Confessions of lapsed vegetarians, the cult of Konmari, and what's wrong with being a 'white feminist'? Show notes Your hosts are Monique Bowley, Mia Freedman and with thanks to Georgie Dent for filling in for Jamila Rizvi, whose on holidays this week. Tweet us @mamamiapodcasts Like the facebook page here Mia recommends Rosie Batty's book, A Mother's Story and Magda Szubanski's book, Reckoning. Georgie recommends reading too. The Rosie Project if you haven't yet. Monique recommends The Life Changing Magic Of Tidying Up. This podcast is part of the Mamamia Women's Network Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

14 Loka 201543min

BONUS: Bach Chat. The Bachelorette Recap. Season 1, ep 5 and 6

BONUS: Bach Chat. The Bachelorette Recap. Season 1, ep 5 and 6

Monique Bowley, Jo Robin and Lizzie Marton drink beers, watch The Bachelorette and talk about their thoughts. This week, eps 5 and 6 sees clown phobias rise, men with hats fall, and more sporting analogies than you can poke a stick at. Plus, will 'Shark Island' be embedded in the nations conscience forevermore as a symbol of hopelessness? Warning, contains spoilers. Also a tiny bit of dick talk and the odd f word. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

8 Loka 201530min

End Of World Confessions

End Of World Confessions

The world is due to end today so we're getting some stuff off our chest. Mia accidentally shoplifted. And she burnt her fanny with hot tea. The very unfashionable Monique thinks Qantas should take a bow for saying no to thongs, and Bachelorette Sam Frost should stop wearing 1990's hoop earrings. And is it wrong to stockpile limited edition icecreams? For Jamila, it feels so right. Also today, mental health week. The media portrayal of a family murder-suicide has us asking questions about family violence assumptions. And have you lost your job? The things no one tells you. It's the podcast where TMI is barely enough. Show Notes Your hosts are Monique Bowley, Mia Freedman and Jamila Rizvi. Contact the show via email or twitter @mamamiapodcasts Like us on Facebook here. Links: Emily Purcell is a pregnant Gen Y Jam recommends this vanity fair piece on Annie Leibovitz Monique's woman of the year goes to Yvonne Darcy who took on the high court and won. And also proved that big corporations shouldn't mess with Grandmas Mia is reading about the Lockhart shooting and the Nina Funnel piece is here This show proudly supports Dress For Success. They style professional outfits for disadvantaged women so they can look their best at job interviews, in new jobs or at important life events . They also provide career mentors and support networks for women who need a leg up. Donate your used professional outfits, hold a suit drive, or volunteer at dress for success.org.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

7 Loka 201549min

BONUS EP: Bach Chat.  The Bachelorette Recap, Season 1 ep 4.

BONUS EP: Bach Chat. The Bachelorette Recap, Season 1 ep 4.

Whether you love The Bachelorette, or love to hate it, join Monique Bowley, Jo Robin and Lizzie Marton for some Bach Chat. This recap of season 1 episode 4 has the highlights, the lowlights, and a wholesome game of Kill, Marry, F**k. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

1 Loka 201519min

How To Be Cool

How To Be Cool

Em Rusciano knows how to be cool. She doesn't even had a pen licence and she writes with one anyway. Badass. The comedian and columnist joins Jamila Rizvi and Monique Bowley for this week's thought bubbles, like, should the Brownlow Red Carpet talk about more than the dresses? Can Julie Bishop take her boyfriend to work? How can you have better small talk conversations? And how much is too much to spend on scented candles? Show notes Thanks to Em Rusciano, you can follow her on facebook here and twitter here. Your hosts are Monique Bowley and Jamila Rizvi. Mia Freedman will be back next week. And you can send a pen licence to podcasts@mamamia.com.au, the facebook page or @mamamiapodcasts on twitter. Fantastic NY Times article on putting your phone away before you talk Em's column on the Brownlow red carpets is here And Mamamia Out Loud proudly supports Rize Up. For more info on how you can help support victims of domestic violence visit www.rizeup.com.au or their facebook page www.facebook.com/RizeUpAustralia Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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