Kids Who Kill | The Bever, Porco, and Van Breda families
True Crime Society3 Helmi 2022

Kids Who Kill | The Bever, Porco, and Van Breda families

We hear almost daily about mothers and fathers killing their children, sometimes their entire family. You would absolutely be familiar with Scott Peterson, Susan Smith and Chris Watts.

What you hear less often is when children plot and scheme and murder their families. The term for this is either familicide if many family members are killed, or parricide if only parents are killed.

Today on the the True Crime Society Podcast we discuss three cases of ‘Kids Who Kill’.

-In 2015 in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, Robert and Michael Bever who were 18 and 16 at the time, went on a murderous rampage using knives and hatchets. They managed to murder their parents and three of their siblings before they were stopped by police. The brothers had planned to go on a cross-country killing spree, hoping to kill over 100 people. Thankfully, two Bever children survived and a lot of the testimony that was given helped to put Robert and Michael behind bars for good.

- Christopher Porco was in trouble in 2004. He had forged his father’s signature on financial documents and had obtained fraudulent loans. His parents were not happy and frequently told him so. In November that year, Christopher drove from his dorm to the family home, where he attacked his parents with an axe. His father Peter Porco sustained 16 major axe wounds to his face and head including penetration to his brain and part of his jaw ‘ fell’ off following the attack. Despite all this, Peter managed to get out of bed and go about his daily morning routine before dying. He spent some time in the bathroom and at the sink, he loaded the dishwasher, packed his lunch for the day and wrote a check. He finally collapsed and died at the front door. Joan initially told police that Christopher was the attacker but then recanted.

- The Van Breda family lived an affluent, high-flying life in South Africa. Martin and Teresa were very successful and were raising three children Rudi, Henri and Marli. One night, an intruder allegedly broke into their mansion in a secure, gated community, murdering three members of the family with an axe. Henri survived with minor injuries and Marli spent months in hospital recovering. Except it turns out, there was no intruder. Henri had an alleged methamphetamine addiction and his allowance had been cut off by his parents, so he killed them.

Please note that this episode contains recordings of 911 calls made by a child victim and one of the murderers. Listener discretion is advised.

We have detailed blogs for all three cases, including crime scene photos, at TrueCrimeSocietyBlog.com

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Moms Who Murder | Jasmine Thomas & Savannah Kriger

Moms Who Murder | Jasmine Thomas & Savannah Kriger

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE CRIME CONTENT, PLEASE CHECK THE RELEVANT TIMESTAMPS. (10:26) - Delphi & Suzanne Morphew Updates (27:36) - Moms who murder A mother’s role is to protect her children and to keep them safe in all situations.  Sometimes though, things go very wrong within the family unit. Australian mother Jasmine Thomas had been struggling following the pandemic.  She suffered from depression after the births of her two children and the pandemic made her increasingly paranoid.  One night in 2022, she told her husband that she was taking their two daughters to McDonald’s.  After getting McDonald's, Jasmine drove her children to a remote area off the highway and set the vehicle on fire with her and the children inside.  All three of them died within minutes. Texas woman Savannah Kriger was going through a messy divorce with her husband Brian.  A custody hearing regarding their son Kaiden was scheduled in March 2024.  On the day of the hearing, Savannah went to Brian’s home and destroyed every piece of clothing that he owned.  She then shot bullets through her wedding portraits and laid her wedding dresses out on the bed.  She picked up Kaiden from daycare and made him call Brian to say goodbye.  She then shot her son before taking her own life. In this episode of the True Crime Society Podcast, we discuss the cases of two mothers who murder – Jasmine Thomas and Savannah Kriger.  Read our blog for these cases There have also been updates in two previously covered cases and we also discuss: The delay of Richard Allen’s trial.  Richard is accused of killing Delphi teens Liberty German and Abigail Williams.  His trial was due to start in mid May and has now been pushed out to later in 2024. Suzanne Morphew’s autopsy results have come back.  Suzanne went missing on Mother’s Day in 2020 and her remains were found last year.  Suzanne’s cause of death has been determined as “Homicide by undetermined means in the setting of butorphanol, azaperone, and medetomidine (BAM)  intoxication.”  BAM is a potent tranquilizer that only licensed veterinarians can prescribe.  Interestingly, Suzanne’s husband Barry had access to BAM for hunting purposes. We are now on Patreon!  Thank you for your support This episode is sponsored by: IQBar - Refuel smarter with IQBAR’s Ultimate Sampler Pack. That’s 7 IQBARs, 4 IQMIX sticks, and 4 IQJOE sticks. To get your twenty percent off, just text CRIME to sixty-four thousand. Get your discount. Text CRIME to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details.

16 Touko 202459min

The Springfield Three | Unsolved 32 Years Later

The Springfield Three | Unsolved 32 Years Later

Timestamps: (9:56) - Springfield Three How can three women simply vanish? On June 7, 1992, Suzie Streeter and her friend Stacy McCall were celebrating their high school graduation.  They went to multiple parties and caught up with friends.  After police were called to one of the parties, the two girls decided to call it a night and headed back to Suzie’s home to spend the night. Suzie and Stacy made it back to the house - their vehicles, purses and other belongings were there.  What happened after they got home is unknown to this day.  The girls along with Suzie’s mother, Sherrill Levitt, vanished and are still missing 32 years later. Police have said the blinds were pulled back as if the women had been looking outside just before they disappeared.  It is believed that Stacy left the home only wearing a t-shirt and underwear, as all of her other belongings are accounted for.   A lamp shade on the front porch of the home was broken but there were no other signs of a struggle.   In this episode of the True Crime Society Podcast, we discuss the cold case disappearance of The Springfield Three. Read our blog for this case We are now on Patreon!  Thank you for your support This episode is sponsored by: FUM - Start The Good Habit by going to TryFum.com/tcs and getting the Journey pack today.  Fum is giving listeners of the show 10% off with code tcs. Thrive Market - Join in on the savings with Thrive Market today and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift.  Go to ThriveMarket.com/tcs Dipsea - Dipsea is offering an extended 30 day free trial when you go to DipseaStories.com/TCS

9 Touko 202455min

Brian Cohee hid Warren Barnes' dismembered remains in his closet for his mother to find

Brian Cohee hid Warren Barnes' dismembered remains in his closet for his mother to find

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE CRIME CONTENT, PLEASE CHECK THE RELEVANT TIMESTAMPS. (6:25) Gypsy update (9:50) Bryan Kohberger stargazes (23:02) Brian Cohee Brian Cohee II was a troubled teen who suffered from mental disorders and was interested in “death and morbidity. In February 2021, after a movie night with his parents, Brian left their home in search of a victim.  He came across a homeless man named Warren Barnes sleeping under a bridge.  Brian stabbed Warren multiple times with a kitchen knife before decapitating and dismembering him.  Brian put Warren’s head and hands in a bag and took them home with him - stashing them in his closet . Brian’s mother Terri came across the bag covered in maggots days later.   She called police immediately and they arrived to question Brian.  There is infamous shocking footage of Brian confidently admitting to the murder. “Police, they don’t seem to care as much about high-risk individuals: homeless people, prostitutes, etc,” he said. “So I was deliberately looking for someone who lived that type of life.” “I’m like, that’s a homeless person, so I grabbed my knife, I put on three layers of gloves because plastic gloves can betray their users because they’re so thin…I took the knife, I pulled back the canvas and I stabbed his neck,” he later said. Read our blog for this case In other news, Bryan Kohberger and his team have released some more information about his alibi on the night of the Moscow murders.  He was apparently driving around, looking at the moon and stars.  We discuss this groundbreaking alibi in this episode. We are now on Patreon!  Thank you for your support  This episode is sponsored by: IQBAR - Refuel smarter with IQBAR’s Ultimate Sampler Pack. Text CRIME to 64-000 for 20% off all IQBAR products. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. Quince – Indulge in affordable luxury!  Go to Quince.com/tcs for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.

25 Huhti 20241h

Missing Women Veronica Butler & Jilian Kelley Murdered By "God's Misfits"

Missing Women Veronica Butler & Jilian Kelley Murdered By "God's Misfits"

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE CRIME CONTENT, PLEASE CHECK THE RELEVANT TIMESTAMPS. (8:32) - OJ Simpson’s death  (14:07) - Dylan Rounds (17:24) - Crumbley Update (22:34) - Veronica Butler & Jilian Kelley Veronica Butler was involved in a fierce custody battle with her ex regarding their two children. Over the years, there had been allegations of abuse by other family members. In March 2024, Veronica was only able to see her children via supervised visits due to the allegations. On March 30, Veronica set out with Jilian Kelley to pick up her children to attend a birthday party.  Jilian was an acquaintance who had been allowed by the court to supervise Veronica’s visits with her children.   The two women would never arrive to pick up the children.  Their vehicle was found abandoned in a remote area. Pools of blood, a hammer and gun paraphernalia was found at the scene.  Four people have now been arrested in relation to this case.  They are Tad Cullum, Tifany Adams, Cole Twombly, and Cora Twombly.  This case is a very tangled web - Tifany was Veronica’s ex-mother-in-law.  The newly released affidavit suggests that the women were murdered because Tifany was concerned that Veronica would soon be granted unsupervised visitation with the kids.   In this episode of the True Crime Society Podcast, we discuss the brutal murders of Veronica Butler and Jilian Kelley. Read our blog for this case We also discuss: OJ Simpson Died The body of missing teen Dylan Rounds has just been recovered.   Dylan’s alleged murderer led police to his remains in early April 2024.  Jennifer and James Crumbley, parents of school shooter Ethan Crumbley, have been sentenced for their role in the massacre.  We are now on Patreon! Thank you for your support This episode is sponsored by:  Thrive Market - Join in on the savings with Thrive Market today and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift.  Go to ThriveMarket.com/tcs

18 Huhti 202459min

Missing 15-year-old Sebastian Rogers

Missing 15-year-old Sebastian Rogers

F YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE CRIME CONTENT, PLEASE CHECK THE RELEVANT TIMESTAMPS. (9:14) - Gypsy Rose Updates (17:50) - Sebastian Rogers Sebastian Rogers (15) was last seen by his mother Katie Proudfoot on the night of February 25, 2024.  Katie has said that he did his chores and went into his bedroom.  At around 10pm, she called for him to go to sleep.   As some background into Sebastian, he is autistic and has been described as “very smart” and “not a mischievous child by any means.” Sebastian has limited social skills and at Christmas time is said to have asked for some friends. When Katie went in at 6am the following morning to wake Sebastian, he was not in his room.  No trace of him has been found since. The search for Sebastian has been elaborate and comprehensive.  At one point, investigators played his favorite song ‘Eye of the Tiger’ in an effort to lure him out of any hiding spot.  Police also searched a landfill after a garbage collector said a trash can from Sebastian’s neighborhood felt heavier than usual.   Now, more than six weeks later, Sebastian is still missing.  Did he run away and has somehow managed to survive with no phone, money or other essentials?  Or did something happen to Sebastian inside his family home?   In this episode of the True Crime Society Podcast, we the disappearance of teenager Sebastian Rogers.   Read our blog for this case We are now on Patreon!  Thank you for your support This episode is sponsored: IQBAR - Refuel smarter with IQBAR’s Ultimate Sampler Pack. Text CRIME to 64-000 for 20% off all IQBAR products. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details.

11 Huhti 20241h 2min

Ruby Franke believed her children were possessed by demons | John & Jane Doe cases

Ruby Franke believed her children were possessed by demons | John & Jane Doe cases

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE CRIME CONTENT, PLEASE CHECK THE RELEVANT TIMESTAMPS. Ruby Franke (8:28) Doe Cases (35:17) The diaries of former mommy YouTuber Ruby Franke have been released and go into detail about how she abused her children.  Ruby believed they were possessed by demons and repeatedly wrote that her son and daughter were the “spawns of Satan." In a July 2023 entry about her son, Ruby wrote: “I will not feed a demon.”  The children were found emaciated and injured in August 2023.  Ruby has since pleaded guilty to four counts of aggravated child abuse and will serve her sentence in a Utah prison.  She may face decades behind bars. In this age of technology and DNA advancements, it is unbelievable that some unidentified John and Jane Doe cases have never gotten their names back.  We discuss two such cases in this episode.  In June 2020, the remains of a male and female were found in Pinos Altos, New Mexico.  A gun and suicide notes were found near their skeletonized remains.   In August 2021 in Wadesboro, North Carolina, a barely clothed female was seen on a trail cam in the middle of the night, in the woods.  Her remains were found the following year and she remains unidentified as of the time of recording.  Could this Jane Doe be missing woman Amber Rae Johnston?  In this episode of the True Crime Society Podcast, we discuss updates in the Ruby Franke child abuse case as well as some Jane and John Doe cases. Read our blogs for these cases –  Ruby Franke Doe Cases We are now on Patreon!  Thank you for your support This episode is sponsored by: FUM - Start the year off right with The Good Habit by going to TryFum.com/tcs and getting the Journey pack today. Fum is giving listeners of the show 10% off with code TCS

4 Huhti 20241h

Just Another Scammy Cult | Twin Flames Universe

Just Another Scammy Cult | Twin Flames Universe

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE CRIME CONTENT, PLEASE CHECK THE RELEVANT TIMESTAMPS. (6:55) - Twin Flames Universe Jeff Ayan met Megan Plante online in 2012.  The couple had similar interests and were both interested in spirituality.  Megan was studying under a spiritual guide at the time, and that person advised her that her spiritual name should be Shaleia.  Megan has gone by that name ever since. Jeff and Shaleia moved in together and soon began to form ‘Twin Flames Universe’.   A Twin Flame is a term that has been used to describe two people who are equals.  Twin Flames are meant to push the other in their journey of self-discovery. Jeff and Shaleia have allegedly urged their followers to pursue their twin flame matches, regardless of the law.  Some of their followers have been told to ignore restraining orders in order to match with their flame.  Twin Flames Universe followers sometimes pay thousands of dollars for information from Jeff and Shaleia.  One former devotee even had to declare bankruptcy after spending all of her money and up to ten hours per day studying Jeff and Shaleia’s teachings.  Vanity Fair journalist Alice Hines described the classes as “a therapeutic-spiritual reality show”. Is Twin Flames Universe a cult?  Jeff has denied that is it.  He told VICE “We created an organization of love and harmony which heals and enriches everyone in it and everyone who is connected to anyone in it.” In this episode of the True Crime Society Podcast, we discuss Twin Flames Universe.   Read our blog for this case We are now on Patreon!  Thank you for your support

28 Maalis 20241h 16min

The Mysterious Deaths of Kris Kremers & Lisanne Froon | 10 Year Anniversary

The Mysterious Deaths of Kris Kremers & Lisanne Froon | 10 Year Anniversary

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE CRIME CONTENT, PLEASE CHECK THE RELEVANT TIMESTAMPS. (10:03) James Crumbley verdict, Moscow madness (17:45) Kris Kremers & Lisanne Froon Dutch tourists Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon arrived in Boquete, Panama in March 2014. They had prearranged to volunteer at a local school and were excited to spend time in the beautiful country.  When they went to the school to start their work, they were told there was no place for them. They were disappointed and looked for ways to fill their days. On April 1, 2014, Kris and Lisanne went for a hike on the El Pianista Trail. They were only planning to spend a few hours there and took no supplies with them. They headed onto the trail and were never seen alive again. Months later, some of their belongings were found, including their phones and a camera.  Investigators determined that they had attempted to make emergency calls from their phones for days after the hike, but the calls never connected.  There were many interesting photos found on the camera, including 90 photos taken in a short period, one week after they went missing.  One photo was found to have been deleted from the camera and authorities have never been able to recover it. Some remains of Kris and Lisanne were eventually found. Panamanian authorities have never released full autopsies for the women.   In this episode of the True Crime Society Podcast, we discuss the mysterious deaths of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon.          Read our blog for this case We are now on Patreon!  Thank you for your support This episode is sponsored by: Thrive Market - Join in on the savings with Thrive Market today and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift.  Goto ThriveMarket.com/tcs

21 Maalis 20241h 8min

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