Ep. 392: Nature vs. Nurture: Unlocking the Secrets of Parent-Child Attachment with Dr. Rocio Zunini

Ep. 392: Nature vs. Nurture: Unlocking the Secrets of Parent-Child Attachment with Dr. Rocio Zunini

What actually shapes the way we connect with our babies? Our biology or our environment? In this episode of The Birth Lounge Podcast, HeHe sits down with neuroscientist Dr. Rocio Zunini to unpack the wildly fascinating science of parenthood and attachment styles.

You’ll learn how your brain literally changes during pregnancy and parenting (yes, your brain rewires itself!), why nurturing is far more powerful than we ever realized, and how those early interactions shape lifelong emotional regulation and resilience.

Dr. Zunini breaks down groundbreaking research on how nurturing behavior in animals translates to humans, from secure to anxious, avoidant, and disorganized attachment styles and what that means for how we show up as parents.

They also dig into how mothers’ and fathers’ brains adapt differently, the critical role of “allo parents” (those loving caregivers beyond mom and dad), and how awareness and mindful connection can actually rewrite generational patterns.

If you’ve ever wondered how to raise emotionally secure, confident kiddos or how your own upbringing plays a role in the parent you’re becoming, this one’s a must-listen.

PSA for all my mamas worried about “big baby” talk: Our brand new course — Pushing Out Your Big A** Baby is officially live and in pre-sale until November 1! This class busts through every scare tactic, lays out the real evidence, and gives you the exact tools to advocate for yourself with confidence (no matter how big your baby is). Grab your spot at thebirthlounge.com/bigbaby

00:00 The Impact of Environment on Development

01:40 Introduction to The Birth Lounge Podcast

01:58 Understanding Big Baby Myths

04:51 The Science of Attachment Styles

09:31 Interview with Dr. Rocio Zunini

11:19 The Importance of Parent-Child Bonding

22:51 Emotional Regulation and Brain Development

26:02 Balancing Work and Parenting

26:21 Differences Between Moms and Dads

31:56 Navigating Childhood Wounds and Parenting

33:31 Clean Living with Just Ingredients

37:23 Understanding Wounds and Resilience

38:58 The Concept of Orchid Genes

40:42 Exploring Attachment Styles

43:19 Breaking the Cycle of Insecure Attachment

47:45 Nature vs. Nurture Debate

48:29 The Impact of Nurture on Stress Systems

54:38 Gender Differences in Nurturing

01:00:35 The Role of Allo Parents

01:03:18 Adoption and Attachment

01:05:03 Final Thoughts and Resources

Guest Bio:

Rocio is a neuroscientist and mother of two. She is the founder of Newborn Parents, which was born out of the fusion of her two passions: the brain and the relationship between parents and their infants. She educates parents and professionals about parental brain science so that they can take advantage of the profound brain changes that accompany mastrescence and patrescence. She is also co-directs and co-faciliates the Nurture Neuroscience Professional Certification along her friend and colleague Dr. Greer Kirshenbaum.

INSTAGRAM:

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BIRTH EDUCATION:

Check out my brand new course Birthing Your Big Ass Baby

Join The Birth Lounge here for judgment-free childbirth education that prepares you for an informed birth and how to confidently navigate hospital policy to have a trauma-free labor experience!

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LINKS MENTIONED:

Sign up for Dr. Rocio and Dr. Greer’s 5-day FREE Event: Nurture Neuroscience for Professionals

https://www.nurture-neuroscience.com/free-event-for-professionals

www.newbornparents.net

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18: The Benefits of Milk Baths with Carli Ambrose

18: The Benefits of Milk Baths with Carli Ambrose

Milk baths are often thought of as either aesthetics for pictures or maths made of breastmilk for babies. Today, HeHe sits down with Carli Ambrose, Founder of Milk Bath Goddess, to discuss the benefits for adults and particularly women to soak in milk. Milk Bath Goddess focuses on self-care and overall well-being. They pride themselves on using all-natural and chemical free ingredients and Carli warns listeners of the dangers of an unregulated industry. Join us to learn all about the benefits of herbs, oils, and ingredients in milk baths that can help you achieve a better balance in life.        Shownotes:   Check out the blog!     Helpful links: Follow us on Instagram @milkbathgoddess  Facebook @milkbathgoddess Shop at MilkBathGoddess.esty.com Use the code: milkbathmama to receive special savings on any MBG products!

24 Huhti 201825min

17: Friday Free Talk: 8 Questions to Ask your Doula in an Interview

17: Friday Free Talk: 8 Questions to Ask your Doula in an Interview

Happy Friday! Let's dive into choosing the perfect birth support for you! Have you considered having a doula at your birth? ..but have no clue how to choose a "good one." In this episode, I share my formula of questions that you can ask to help you find the perfect match. I also share my thoughts on characteristics of the perfect doula. You don't get any do-overs in birth, so be picky and be intentional! Grab your freebie here.     Shownotes:  Check out the blog!

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16: Becoming a Podcast Influencer with Bryn Hunt Palmer

16: Becoming a Podcast Influencer with Bryn Hunt Palmer

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15: Hormones, Nutrition, and Infertility with Kelly Agnew

15: Hormones, Nutrition, and Infertility with Kelly Agnew

In this episode, HeHe chats with Kelly Agnew all about hormones, nutrition, and infertility. We discuss what foods can help with balancing hormones and setting your body up for pregnancy. Kelly gives away her thoughts about fats in your diet and we talk about how fascinating the female body is and how everything in our body is intricately connected. Kelly also shares how holistic care changed her life and ultimately led to her decision to become a nutritionist. Join us to discuss how to support your body and balance your hormones with every day foods.   Shownotes: Check out the blog!

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14: Friday Free Talk: Parents with Anxiety

14: Friday Free Talk: Parents with Anxiety

In this episode of Friday Free Talk, I'm talking about why I support parents with anixiety. It is something that I come across often so I decided to sit down to think about why and what made me so organically prepared for this. It was something I had never sat down to dive into before, but now that I have I want to share it with you!  Shownotes: Check out the blog!

6 Huhti 201827min

13: Being Mindful in Motherhood with Sarah Bivens

13: Being Mindful in Motherhood with Sarah Bivens

Today we are taking a stroll down mindfulness lane. HeHe and Sarah dive into what self-care looks like in motherhood. We talk about why it's so important to set time aside for yourself, why communication can make or break a system, and how you can start your journey of finding "balance." Parenting and being a partner can be challenging, so what happens when your cup is empty and there's nothing left to give? Join us as we talk about the not-so-pretty moments of filling so many roles and how to find a place in your life that you want to relish in every single last moment!  ​   Shownotes: Check out the blog!

3 Huhti 20181h 2min

12: Free Friday Talk: Doulas Without Babies

12: Free Friday Talk: Doulas Without Babies

In this episode of Friday Free Talk, I dive into the stigma that in order to be a good doula, you must have children yourself. "Do you have children?" is a questions that is often asked in the birth world and there can definitely be some judgment attached. I get down to the nitty gritty and pretty raw about what makes a good doula, how to put together your birth team, and why you should be selfish during pregnancy! I even dive into the social construct of how gender plays a role among the birth community. Let's dig into a double standard that I love discussing!    Shownotes: Check out the blog!

30 Maalis 201811min

11: Vagina Whispering with Sara Reardon

11: Vagina Whispering with Sara Reardon

In this episode, HeHe sits down with Sara Reardon, The Vagina Whisperer, to get a closer look at the pelvic floor. We dive into maternity belts, painful sex, and general vaginal care. Sara spills the beans on prenatal preventative care to be proactive with the health of your pelvic floor and her thoughts on perineum massages. We talk about how to support your body and perineum, pushing properly, and the use of epidurals and your pelvic floor. She tells what you should be looking for if certain symptoms don’t go away and what a reasonable healing period looks like. Finally, we chat about the age old question: To Kegel or Not To Kegel? This episode is jam packed with information that you will want to know if you have a vagina or know anyone who does.    Shownotes: Check out the blog!

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