Ep. 326 - The 4th Monday Series - Back From The Dead with Carrie Hatton

This month we are joined by Dr. Camille Preston, who is the CEO and founder of AIM Leadership. Since founding AIM Leadership in 2004, she has worked with leaders across sectors and the capital stack. As a business psychologist, Camille brings research and insights from psychology, neuroscience, and business to her work. Whether supporting Fortune 500 leaders, startup founders, or C-suite executives in healthcare, Camille's sweet spot is helping uncover hidden barriers to increase the capacity to optimize, innovate, and manage change. In addition to working as a coach and business psychologist, Camille is author of two books, a regular contributor to several established publications in the business and psychology fields, and the author of a growing library of actionable resource tools. A life-long challenge seeker, Camille has lived on four continents, worked on six, and traveled extensively. [March 14, 2022] 00:00 – Intro Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 01:25 – Dr. Camille Preston Intro 02:43 – How did you get into this? 05:02 – The Journey to Awareness & Mindfulness 06:39 – Building Mindfulness 08:32 – Horizontal VS Vertical Development 10:00 – Gateways of Vertical Development 11:41 – Owning Mistakes 14:02 – Planning For Problem Solving 15:12 – Building Trust 16:21 – Authentic Connections in a Virtual World 19:24 – Mental Health Pandemic 21:25 – The Importance of Great Leadership 22:41 – Integrating Head and Heart 23:53 – What makes someone "all heart"? 26:51 – The Importance of Leaving Your Country 29:45 – Who are your greatest mentors? 33:36 – Book Recommendations: Sogyal Rinpoche – The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying - https://amzn.to/3sV7nxq Steven Kotler – https://amzn.to/3IZRStD Dave Asprey – Game Changers - https://amzn.to/3IZ1zZg Naomi McDougall Jones – The Wrong Kind of Women - https://amzn.to/3KrLVWP (Camille's Book) Camille Preston – Create More Flow - https://amzn.to/3sVRDKB (Camille's Book) Camille Preston – Rewired - https://amzn.to/3pQvCuM 35:21 – Guest Wrap Up Twitter: http://twitter.com/CamilleP LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/camillepreston/ AIM Leadership: https://aimleadership.com/ 35:37 – Outro

14 Maalis 202235min

This month Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by Kathleen (Kate) Mullin. Kate is an influential information security practitioner with over 30 years of experience. Kate currently is CISO with Cancer Treatment Centers of America. Kate has been CISO at various organizations including start-ups, publicly traded, private equity, not-for-profit, and governmental entities. Throughout her career, Kate has volunteered and participated in maturing information security as a profession. She volunteers with ISC(2) and ISACA and has been a member of the ISACA CGEIT Certification and Credentials Committee and a chapter president. Kate serves as a featured international speaker and panelist. She has a BSBA from St Joseph's College and an MBA from Florida Metropolitan University. Kate is also certified as a Master Level Social Engineer. [February 21, 2022] 00:00 – Intro Social-Engineer.com Managed Voice Phishing Managed Email Phishing  Adversarial Simulations Social-Engineer channel on SLACK CLUTCH innocentlivesfoundation.org  Human Behavior Conference 03:09 – Kathleen Mullin intro 04:25 – How did you get started in Information Security? 06:39 – What are some indicators that tells you something is ineffective? 10:21 – Do you think the "cookie cutter" type of training is a reflection on the security awareness team itself? 12:16 – How can you offer the more personalized training to a company that is spread out all over the U.S. or the globe? 16:31 – Is having someone in this position who is focused on the people and the results the way to go about having the program be successful? 18:09 – What are your major security concerns being in the healthcare industry, and how are you dealing with those? 21:08 – We are seeing SMishing attacks becoming more prevalent in general. Are you seeing that happening in your industry? 22:47 – Caring about employees' security outside of work as well 23:35 – What are some action steps that any company can start doing right now? Have metrics and measure training effectiveness Humanize your training Incremental steps Care about your users for real 26:11 – Demoralizing phishing techniques 28:15 – Book Recommendations: Martha Wells - Murderbot Diaries series Robin Dreeke – Code of Trust Textbook - Enterprise Security Architecture 30:13 – Who would you consider your greatest mentor? Father, Naval pilot/engineer Chris Hadnagy Michele Fincher David Lynus from the SABSA Institute 34:27 – Finding Kate on the web: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katemullin/ 35:17 – Guest Wrap Up 36:00 – Outro www.social-engineer.com www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

21 Helmi 202236min

This month Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by John Strand from Black Hills Information Security. John has both consulted and taught hundreds of organizations in the areas of security, regulatory compliance, and penetration testing.  He is a coveted speaker and much-loved SANS teacher. John is a contributor to the industry-shaping Penetration Testing Execution Standard and 20 Critical Controls frameworks. He enjoys mountain biking, getting hurt mountain biking, sucking at surfing, and heavy music. January 17th 2022 00:00 – Intro Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ Human Behavior Conference – https://humanbehaviorcon.com/ 02:40 – John Strand Info 03:31 - ILF 04:51 - Ryan intro 06:30 – Chat about Chris getting his company started 08:21 - How did you get started with your own company? 12:17 - Cows 14:56 – The idea of travel and never seeing your family 15:57 - What was the point where you started to feel "this company is going to work" 18:35 – Creating company loyalty 22:06 - "Pay What You Can" training 30:22 – More on how the pandemic changed workflow 34:03 – More on pay-what-you-can training – management of 5,000 people 41:41 – How can someone take action right now? 44:59 – Favorite Books Dune All the Birds In The Sky – Charlie Jane Anders - https://amzn.to/3I9lu75 We - Yevgeny Zamyatin - https://amzn.to/3Ihoy1b The Master and Margarita – Mikhail Bulgakov - https://amzn.to/3Kl6t3R The Mistborn Series – Brandon Sanderson - https://amzn.to/33qcnQH The Way of The Kings – Brandon Sanderson - https://amzn.to/3tuF1uJ 47:55 – Who is your biggest mentor Ed Skoudis 51:34 – Guest Wrap-Up 52:30 - Outro

17 Tammi 202252min

This is a special edition of Social-Engineer's Human Element Series Podcast. Chris Hadnagy will discuss Covid-19 testing site scams, and how you can protect yourself against them. [January 14, 2022] 00:00 – Intro social-engineer.com/ social-engineer.org/ innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 00:21 – Covid-19 Testing Site Physical Scams 05:46 – Other types of scams during Covid-19 06:44 – Outro http://www.social-engineer.com/ https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb http://www.pro-rock.com/ http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

16 Tammi 20228min

This month Chris Hadnagy is joined by the fascinating Amy Herman. Amy is a lawyer and an art historian who uses works of art to sharpen observation, analysis, and communication skills. She developed her Art of Perception seminar in 2000 and since then has worked with the New York City Police Department, the FBI, Department of Defense, Fortune 500 companies and more. She is also a TED speaker and an author of 2 books. Her latest book, "Fixed: How to Perfect the Fine Art of Problem-Solving was just released in December of 2021. She is also going to be bringing her fascinating training seminar to the Human Behavior Conference this March! [January 10, 2022] 00:00 – Intro Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ Human Behavior Conference – https://humanbehaviorcon.com/ 02:39 - Amy Herman Intro 04:17 – Tell us how you got to where you are today 07:12 – How did you get to the conclusion where two different people from the same class have different needs? 10:00 – Is there an equation or secret about how an every day person can use that skill? 13:33 – Amy's new book, "Fixed" 15:00 – How did you come up with the concept of this book? 18:00 – What is the hope you want for people who read this? 19:52 – How has the past 18 months changed the concepts of visual intelligence? 25:55 – Are you going to keep virtual training? 29:50 – Being more empathetic and finding common ground 32:31 – Can you explain "pertinent negative" from your book? 35:34 – Tell the story about your book cover 40:36 – Besides yours what are some of your favorite books? (Amy's book) Fixed.: How To Perfect The Fine Art of Problem Solving (Amy's book) Visual Intelligence: Sharpen Your Perception, Change Your Life The Boys In The Boat – Nine Americans and Their Quest for the Gold - by Daniel James Brown 43:27 – Who is your greatest mentor? Angela Merkel 45:15 – Guest Wrap Up Website:  www.artfulperception.com Twitter:  www.twitter.com/AmyhermanAOP Instagram: @AmyHermanAOP

10 Tammi 202245min

This month, Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by Adam Levin. Adam is a nationally recognized expert on cybersecurity, privacy, identity theft, fraud, and personal finance and has distinguished himself as a fierce consumer advocate for the past 50 years. Adam is the former Director of the New Jersey Division of Consumer Affairs, and currently is the founder of CyberScout and co-founder of Credit.com. He is also author of the critically acclaimed book Swiped: How to Protect Yourself in a World Full of Scammers, Phishers, and Identity Thieves. Adam is also the host of the podcast What the Hack with Adam Levin, where they talk to fascinating people about the most terrifying things that ever happened to them in cyberspace. December 20, 2021 00:00 – Intro Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ Human Behavior Conference – https://humanbehaviorcon.com/ 03:26 - Adam Levin Intro 04:37 – How did you get started in the industry? 07:42 – What has the shift been like in the types of attacks from the 90s until now? 09:53 – How does the recent Robinhood breach tie into what we're discussing? 12:00 – What should people be focusing on when they hear stories like this? 14:28 – Do these simplistic solutions really work? 18:45 – What type of advice would you give to companies that have public facing employees? 20:22 – You said something interesting earlier, "the company has to deal with it empathetically". What does that mean to you? 24:51 – Empathy, continued 30:22 – What do you see coming in the near future, what types of scams will become popular? 33:53 – What are some things people can look out for to avoid scams? 38:20 – Do you find that catastrophe and the emotional factor is used to get people to fall for scams? 41:39 – Finding Adam on the web: www.adamlevin.com https://adamlevin.com/what-the-hack/ 42:57 – What are some action steps corporations can take to protect themselves? 45:13 – Who is your greatest mentor? Virginia Long, director of Consumer Affairs Ian Cohen – CEO of Lokker, a privacy company Bill Tait – Vice Chairman at Humana Jennifer Leuer – came from Experian 47:40 – Book Recommendations Condor – TV Show Spy novels (none specifically suggested) authors: Tom Clancy, Brad Thor, Vince Flynn Yellowstone – TV Show series FBI series and all spinoffs 49:16 – Outro www.innocentlivesfoundation.org www.social-engineer.com www.pro-rock.com

20 Joulu 202149min

This month Chris Hadnagy is joined by our good friend, Anne-Maartje Oud. For 20 years Anne-Maartje has been a behavioral advisor, consultant, chairwoman, and keynote speaker. On top of that she is the CEO and founder of The Behavior Company based in Amsterdam where she helps customize personal development programs for companies and organizations worldwide. Anne-Maartje is also a trainer who gives lectures and training at several universities in the Netherlands. She is also going to be a trainer at the Human Behavior Conference in March 2022. [December 13, 2021] 00:00 – Intro Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ Human Behavior Conference – https://humanbehaviorcon.com/ 03:12 – Anne-Maartje intro 04:22 – What got you started in conflict resolution? 06:23 – Can you teach people to control behavior that's based on emotion? 08:53 – Before words come out, what would you tell someone to do to not react and show that emotion? 12:30 – How do you start a conversation that leads to some benefit? 15:35 – What if that doesn't work? 17:41 – How do you instruct people to remember it all? 19:51 – How important is understanding for managers and leaders? 20:52 - How would you instruct managers to go about learning this? 22:27 – Do you find that companies that have upper level management that focus on behavioral analysis have less conflict down the ladder? 27:01 – HuBe Con – what will you do there? 29:24 – Joe Navarro co session – what is that session all about? 36:51 – Finding Anne Maartje on the web: www.twitter.com/BehaviourC www.twitter.com/annemaartjeoud https://www.linkedin.com/in/annemaartjeoud/ www.behaviourcompany.eu 37:39 – Book Recommendations: Shakespeare's Plays – favorite is Hamlet 39:24 – Who would you consider your biggest mentors? Joe Navarro 41:09 – Outro www.humanbehaviorcon.com www.innocentlivesfoundation.org www.pro-rock.com

13 Joulu 202142min

This month, Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by Paul Asadoorian. Paul is the founder of Security Weekly, a security podcast network. Paul spends time "in the trenches" coding in Python, testing security products and evaluating and implementing open-source software. Paul's career began by implementing security programs for a lottery company and then a large university. As Product Evangelist for Tenable Network Security, Paul also built a library of materials on the topic of vulnerability management. When not hacking IoT devices, web applications or Linux, Paul can be found researching his next set of headphones, devices for smoking meat, and e-bikes. November 15, 2021. 00:00 – Intro Social-Engineer.com Managed Voice Phishing  Managed Email Phishing  Adversarial Simulations  Social-Engineer channel on SLACK  CLUTCH  innocentlivesfoundation.org  Human Behavior Conference 03:34 – Paul Asadoorian Intro 05:08 – How did you get started in infosec? 13:19 – When did you decide you were going to start a podcast? 24:26 – What have you learned from the guests you've had on your podcasts over all of these years? 27:00 – What is your perspective on the shifting of hacking culture in the community? 34:53 – What are the best qualities someone could have to be attractive to a potential employer in this industry? 37:14 – How do we get the younger generation to have the qualities we are not seeing? 41:38 – Who is your greatest mentor? Laurie Baker Stephen Northcutt @ SANS Ed Skoudis @ SANS 46:00 – Book Recommendations Code Girls The Phoenix Project The Unicorn Project Countdown to Zero Day The Cuckoo's Egg Cyberpunk 51:00 – Guest Wrap Up https://securityweekly.com www.twitter.com/securityweekly 53:31 – Outro innocentlivesfoundation.org

15 Marras 202153min