16: Anjan Katta - A Sunrise Over Computing
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16: Anjan Katta - A Sunrise Over Computing

Anjan Katta (X) is Founder and CEO of Daylight, a new type of computer company. Having a conversation with Anjan is a bit like trying reign in a wild animal: his horsepower, wide-ranging philosophical interests, and unbelievable depth in the areas he cares about make him one of a kind. Fortunately, all of that energy is being channeled into his life's work, Daylight Computer Company. Daylight's mission is to build a computer that amplifies our humanity. That starts with Daylight's first product: The DC1, a tablet that combines the power and functionality of an iPad with the screen of a kindle. Anjan has been building Daylight for seven years across extensive research on screens and hardware, many near deaths, and mission-driven motivation. Anjan sees computers as a "magical medium" that we're in relationship with, unlike other tools. Unfortunately, "optimization of the means, yet confusion of goals" has led the technology industry to building hardware and software that sits in what he calls a "messy medium." With devices that can do anything and everything, they often fail to empower us toward the vision Steve Jobs called the bicycle for the mind. Throughout, Anjan and I discuss a philosophy toward life, career, design, and creating meaning that I hope will inspire you, whether you work on technology or not. May we all aim to get closer to ourselves and our humanity. --- This episode is brought to you by Hampton, a private, highly vetted membership for founders. Hampton makes entrepreneurship less lonely by matching you with a core group of likeminded founders along with community, events, retreats, and more. Visit https://joinhampton.com/community to learn more and apply. --- Timestamps: (0:04): Hampton (1:57): Anjan Intro (3:54): A Bicycle for the Mind and The Computer: Tool or Medium? (13:15): The Core of the Computer as a Magical Medium: Relationship (16:39): The Waterslide/fall of Agency and Humanity as Nature's Generalists (27:35): What drove Anjan to Computers (33:00): Building the Non-Inevitable and Confronting Silicon Valley's "Optimization of Means, Yet Confusion of Goals" (39:25): Wandering Toward Daylight: a Computer that Doesn't Feel Like Other Computers (51:02): Is Daylight paternalistic? The messy middle and the Case Against "sporks" or Sh*tting Where You Eat (59:51): The Ultimate Messy Medium: The Phone as Our Main Relationship to the World and Starting Over with a More Simple Tool (1:08:04): A Magical Companion: The Primer, Dynabook, or "Hobbes" (1:13:31): Starting with Light (1:17:32): Daylight as "basically Just a Screen" & Applying "Lateral Thinking with Withered Technology" (1:28:18): High Resolution Decision Making: Designing with Intuition and Developing the Right Kind of "Feel" (1:40:24): The Four Dimensions of Daylight's Vision (1:58:08): Growing as a Person and a Leader (2:07:08): Growing Daylight the Company/Organism: Three Principles (2:12:42): Competition, Scaling Daylight, Why Someone Should Work There (2:17:45): Lighting Round: Paravel – Interactive Fiction App Developed for Daylight (2:19:54): The Evolution of Books (2:21:20): Most Influential Books on Anjan (2:23:43): Is AI making Us More Human or Less Human? <...

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15: D.A. Wallach - Serendipity & Systems

15: D.A. Wallach - Serendipity & Systems

D.A. Wallach (Website, X, Substack, Spotify) is an investor, musician, writer, and polymath. Today he co-runs Time BioVentures, backing frontier life-science and healthcare startups. Before that, he w...

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14: Alex Zhang - Curating Cultural Playgrounds

14: Alex Zhang - Curating Cultural Playgrounds

Alex Zhang (Website, X, Instagram) is a cultural curator, community builder, and creative director. Currently, he's Chief Creative Officer of Powder Mountain, a where he's working with Reed Hastings t...

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13: Nabeel S. Qureshi - The Will to Care

13: Nabeel S. Qureshi - The Will to Care

Nabeel S. Qureshi (Website, X, Substack) is a writer, entrepreneur, and former Palantir product lead known for his writing on technology, AI, Palantir, culture, and learning. After a brief hiatus writ...

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12: Che-Wei Wang & Taylor Levy (CW&T) - Iterating Together with Time

12: Che-Wei Wang & Taylor Levy (CW&T) - Iterating Together with Time

Che-Wei Wang and Taylor Levy are the founders of CW&T (Website, Instagram, X, TikTok), a Brooklyn-based studio creating products that exist somewhere between art, design, and engineering. The husband-...

24 Maalis 20251h 55min

11: Eugene Wei - Amusing Each Other to Death

11: Eugene Wei - Amusing Each Other to Death

Eugene Wei (Website, X) is a writer, product thinker, and cultural observer best known for his essays on technology, media, and social networks, including Status as a Service, Invisible asymptotes, an...

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10: Josh Wolfe - Illuminating Tomorrow

10: Josh Wolfe - Illuminating Tomorrow

Josh Wolfe (Website, X) is co-founder and Managing Partner of Lux Capital, a venture firm focused on emerging science and technology at the outermost edges of what is possible. Josh is a masterful sto...

25 Helmi 20251h 25min

9: Jacob Horne - Markets for What Matters

9: Jacob Horne - Markets for What Matters

Jacob Horne (Website, Zora, X, Farcaster), is co-founder and CEO of Zora, a platform that allows the tokenization of media. Jacob started his career at Coinbase where he was a product lead and helped ...

19 Helmi 20252h 32min

8: Steph Ango - Tools for Amplifying Our Light

8: Steph Ango - Tools for Amplifying Our Light

Steph Ango aka Kepano (Website, X) is a designer, writer, entrepreneur,and toolmaker, best known as the CEO of Obsidian, a powerful and flexible writing and thinking tool. Steph's education is in bio...

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