64. Desiree Linden
Ali on the Run Show15 Maalis 2018

64. Desiree Linden

"We fail all the time, and we learn from it and we get better. I think that's amazing. You fail your way to success. That's how it happens, and I'm super comfortable with that. I have no problem pointing out a bunch of failures in my career. But I don't define myself or my career as a failure." —Des Linden

Desiree Linden is a professional distance runner who has represented the United States at the London and Rio Olympics. She runs for the Hansons-Brooks Distance Project in Michigan, and is a strong, consistent 2:22 marathoner. In one month, Des will race the Boston Marathon, and on this episode she talks about how her training has been going, and why she's in it to win it. She also talks about why she thinks women are often hesitant to admit their big, scary, awesome goals, and opens up her recent running burnout — and how she busted out of it. Plus, Des talks about failure — and why she's not afraid of it — and shares her big post-Boston goal. (Hint: She wants to make big moves in 2020.)

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What you'll get in this episode:

  • How Des is feeling a month out from the Boston Marathon and what her training strategy and approach have been this time around (2:10)
  • Whether Des has had any of those magical runs yet in her Boston training (4:50)
  • The marathon taper: Love it or hate it? (6:40)
  • What would make Desi's husband say, "She's batshit crazy" (7:45)
  • Whether Des is superstitious or what her pre-race rituals entail (9:45)
  • How Des thinks she's evolved as a competitive athlete (11:40)
  • How Des evaluates her race performances (13:00)
  • What Des is thinking when she's standing on the start line (13:35)
  • How Desi became such a consistent runner — and ran perfectly even splits at last year's Boston Marathon (16:00)
  • Who Des says is her biggest competition at this year's Boston Marathon (17:00)
  • Des shares her best advice for Boston first-timers (18:10)
  • Whether Des notices spectators when she races — and what YOU need to yell to her when you see her run by! (18:45)
  • Why Des never looks rattled or emotional when she runs (21:40)
  • How Des is feeling about the United NYC Half
  • The women Des loves racing against (24:30)
  • How Des kicked her running slump (25:05)
  • How Des feels about the word failure (26:00)
  • How Des met her husband, Ryan, and the hilarious story about their first encounter (31:05)
  • How Des would describe herself as a runner (37:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Boston Marathon

Hansons-Brooks Distance Project

United Airlines NYC Half

Arizona State University

John Hancock

Shalane Flanagan

Kara Goucher

New York Road Runners

Diane Nukuri

The Moth

Banff Film Festival

Bayshore Marathon

Joan Didion

Joan Benoit Samuelson

Amy Cragg

Maximum Mobility

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242. Shalane Flanagan

242. Shalane Flanagan

"If that's my legacy, that's a good one." Shalane Flanagan has many titles: former professional runner, four-time Olympian, Olympic silver medalist, Bowerman Track Club coach, 2017 New York City Marathon champion, American record holder, two-time New York Times best-selling author, race broadcaster — and, her newest title, mom. Last month, Shalane and her husband, Steven Edwards, became parents to their son, Jack Dean Edwards, and on this episode, Shalane talks candidly about new motherhood. She talks about what it was like being at the top of her professional game and constantly fielding questions about when she planned to have children, and explains why she and Steven chose to adopt, and what that process looked like for them. She talks about her decision to retire from professional running in 2019, about why coaching was her next dream, and her third cookbook with co-author Elyse Kopecky, and about the pressure women often feel to "do it all." Thank you to AfterShokz for sponsoring this episode of the Ali on the Run Show! CLICK HERE for 15% off wireless headphones. What you'll get on this episode: What's making Shalane happy right now? (3:15) What new motherhood looks like so far (5:10) Shalane and Steven's road to adoption (14:00) On fielding questions about having children (20:00) On the decision to retire from professional running in 2019 (27:00) All about Coach Shalane (36:15) How Shalane got into race broadcasting (44:20) All about Rise & Run, Shalane and Elyse Kopecky's third cookbook, coming in 2021 (49:20) Reflecting on "The Shalane Effect" and Shalane's legacy (54:30) Shalane answers listener questions (59:30) What we mention on this episode: Choice Adoptions Shalane Flanagan on The Growth Equation podcast "How the Shalane Effect Works," by Lindsay Crouse for The New York Times Run Fast. Eat Slow. Run Fast. Cook Fast. Eat Slow. Untamed by Glennon Doyle Follow Shalane: Instagram @shalaneflanagan Twitter @shalaneflanagan Facebook Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Like the Facebook page Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava Listen & Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Spotify SoundCloud Overcast Stitcher Google Play SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

27 Touko 20201h 10min

241. On the Job with JoMarie Flores, Funeral Director

241. On the Job with JoMarie Flores, Funeral Director

"I'm 100 percent emotionally involved with the families I serve." Welcome to Season 2 of the On the Job series on the Ali on the Run Show! This season, we're kicking things off with JoMarie Flores, a funeral director in Houston, TX. But don't worry: This episode isn't all death, doom, and gloom. JoMarie is so passionate about her work, and you'll quickly see why families love and appreciate her so much. On this episode, JoMarie talks about the education required to become an embalmer and funeral director, and addresses the common misperceptions about her line of work. She opens up about the emotional component of the work, shares why it's important to find laughter during hard times, and offers advice for people who are uncomfortable with death and addressing our own mortality. When she's not on the job as a "last responder," JoMarie is a marathoner, triathlete, and mom to a five-year-old boy. Thank you to Tracksmith for sponsoring the On the Job series on the Ali on the Run Show! Go to tracksmith.com/ontherun and use code ONTHERUN15 at checkout for 15% off your first Tracksmith purchase! Follow JoMarie: Instagram @jfloresfd Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Like the Facebook page Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava Listen & Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Spotify SoundCloud Overcast Stitcher Google Play SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

26 Touko 202059min

240. Lee Glandorf, Tracksmith Head of Communications

240. Lee Glandorf, Tracksmith Head of Communications

"The best thing that can happen to you is to have all your plans get blown up because then you learn how you react to that." Last week, Tracksmith announced it was adding two members to its team: professional athletes Mary Cain and Nick Willis. But Nick and Mary aren't just figureheads for the brand or sponsored athletes. They're full-time, salaried employees. On this episode, Lee Glandorf, head of communications at Tracksmith, shares the behind-the-scenes making of those deals, and talks about what hiring Nick and Mary means for both them and for the brand. She also explains why now — in the midst of a global pandemic — was the right time to make these moves. Lee is a former Yale University rower turned runner, who also shares her running story and talks about how, as someone who thrives on lists and plans, she's adjusting to life right now and finding ways to connect with the community. What you'll get on this episode: How Lee is handling this time as a self-proclaimed "control freak" (6:00) How Tracksmith pivoted strategies and plans at the onset of the Covid-19 pandemic (12:00) All about Tracksmith's decision to hire professional runners Mary Cain and Nick Willis earlier this month (16:30) How Lee fell in love with running (33:00) How Lee got her job at Tracksmith (42:50) What we mention on this episode: On the Job with Taylor Ritzel, Content Acquisition at Netflix Run Free Grand Prix "Mary Cain Announces New Role at Tracksmith," via Women's Running "To Run My Best Marathon at Age 44, I Had to Outrun My Past," via Wired Follow Lee: Instagram @leeglandorf Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Like the Facebook page Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava Listen & Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Spotify SoundCloud Overcast Stitcher Google Play SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

21 Touko 20201h 3min

239. Dinée Dorame, Citizen of the Navajo Nation

239. Dinée Dorame, Citizen of the Navajo Nation

"I was at the cross-section of a couple different identities that people didn't quite understand." Dinée Dorame is a citizen of the Navajo Nation, Water's Edge clan. She's a lifelong runner who grew up in Albuquerque, NM, moved to the east coast to attend and later work in admissions at Yale University, and has since returned to Albuquerque, where she is the Associate Director of College Horizons. On this episode, Dinée talks passionately about the role of running in Native culture, and the role her culture plays in her life on and off the run. She talks about setbacks she's experienced related to Accessory Navicular Syndrome, and how she has dealt with chronic pain, and offers advice for how and why runners can and should better connect with the land around them. Thank you to AfterShokz for sponsoring this episode of the Ali on the Run Show! CLICK HERE for 15% off wireless headphones. What you'll get on this episode: Was Dinée's plan always to return home to New Mexico after attending Yale? (4:30) What it was like growing up as a Native girl in Albuquerque, NM (12:00) Why Dinée says running "is like medicine" for many indigenous people (24:30) What Dinée says are some of the most common misperceptions of Native people today (41:15) What we mention on this episode: Support Dinée and Girls Inc. of New York City Dinée in Runner's World College Horizons Carolyn Su on Episode 140 of the Ali on the Run Show Native Appropriations blog @Native_Women_Running on Instagram Jordan @nativein_la on Instagram Running: A Love Story, by Jen A. Miller Oofos sandals Follow Dinée: Instagram @dinee_pink22 Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Like the Facebook page Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava Listen & Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Spotify SoundCloud Overcast Stitcher Google Play SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

20 Touko 20201h 12min

238. Sasha Wolff, Founder of Still I Run

238. Sasha Wolff, Founder of Still I Run

"I didn't want people to think fun, happy Sasha really has depression and anxiety." Sasha Wolff is the founder of Still I Run, a non-profit organization and online community for runners, whose mission is to raise awareness around mental health. On this episode — in honor of Mental Health Awareness Month — Sasha, a mom of two who lives in Michigan, talks openly about her own experiences with depression and anxiety. She opens up about her decision to admit herself to an inpatient facility for treatment, talks about what that was like, and explains what's in her "mental health care kit." She also shares the story of how she found running, and why she's so passionate about running for her own mental health. Thank you to AfterShokz for sponsoring this episode of the Ali on the Run Show! CLICK HERE for 15% off wireless headphones. What you'll get on this episode: What Mental Health Awareness Month means to Sasha (4:30) Sasha shares her mental health story (7:40) On the decision to check into a mental health hospital (14:30) What's in Sasha's "Mental Health Care Kit?" (21:00) How running has played a role in Sasha's mental health journey (30:20) What we mention on this episode: Andrea Barber on Episode 209 of the Ali on the Run Show Andrea Barber on Episode 45 of the Ali on the Run Show Full Circle: From Hollywood to Real Life and Back Again, by Andrea Barber Koala Clip Follow Sasha: Instagram @sashawolff Instagram @stilliruncommunity Facebook Website Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Like the Facebook page Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava Listen & Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Spotify SoundCloud Overcast Stitcher Google Play SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

14 Touko 202049min

237. A Message & A Promise From Ali

237. A Message & A Promise From Ali

"With this platform comes a responsibility." This episode is a message from me to every listener of the Ali on the Run Show. It's a promise to do better. To showcase more voices on the show and during live events. To listen more. To do the work. Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Like the Facebook page Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava Listen & Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Spotify SoundCloud Overcast Stitcher Google Play SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

11 Touko 202014min

236. Izzy Seidel, Tracksmith Marketing & Communications Associate

236. Izzy Seidel, Tracksmith Marketing & Communications Associate

"I always knew Molly was going to qualify for the Olympics at some point. It was just a matter of when." During the last weekend in February, everyone was talking about one race: the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials. But there was another race that same day, in that same city: Take the Bridge, which Izzy Seidel won. And if that last name sounds familiar — particularly in the context of having a great race in Atlanta on February 29 — that's because Izzy's sister is Molly Seidel, who finished second at the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials that same day, solidifying her spot on the U.S. Olympic Team. On this episode, Izzy recaps that day in Atlanta from her perspective. What is it like when your sister (and roommate!) runs the Trials and lands a spot on the U.S. team? Izzy, who lives in Boston and works for Tracksmith, talks about watching the race, going on to win Take the Bridge, and then taking selfies with adoring fans — who thought she was Molly! Thank you to AfterShokz for sponsoring this episode of the Ali on the Run Show! CLICK HERE for 15% off wireless headphones. (My favorite is the Aeropex!) What you'll get on this episode: What's making Izzy happy right now, and what her running looks like these days (3:10) Recapping the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials from Izzy's perspective (9:30) On going on to run — and win — Take the Bridge later that night (33:30) What Izzy and Molly's relationship was like growing up (38:10) All about Izzy's job at Tracksmith (43:50) What we mention on this episode: Jay Holder on Episode 231 of the Ali on the Run Show Follow Izzy: Instagram @isabelseidel Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Like the Facebook page Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava Listen & Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Spotify SoundCloud Overcast Stitcher Google Play SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

7 Touko 202059min

235. On the Job with Kaitie Brown, Walt Disney World Talent Casting Coordinator

235. On the Job with Kaitie Brown, Walt Disney World Talent Casting Coordinator

"I just remember looking down and seeing that five year old little girl, dressed in her favorite princess dress, looking up at me with the biggest smile on her face — and I just see myself in her. It is so magical." Kaitie Brown knew from a young age that her dream was to one day perform at Walt Disney World — and that's exactly what she went on to do. After three years and 12 auditions, Kaitie was hired as a cast member, where she would perform several times a day, dancing up and down Main Street USA at the Magic Kingdom. Today, Kaitie is one of Disney World's talent casting coordinators, and on this episode, she talks about what it takes to get hired, why auditions are — she swears — actually really fun, and what it's really like to dance at Disney. Plus, as a four-time marathoner, she talks about how being a runner has made her a better performer. Thank you to Tracksmith for sponsoring the On the Job series on the Ali on the Run Show! Go to tracksmith.com/ontherun and use code ONTHERUN15 at checkout for 15% off your first Tracksmith purchase! Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Like the Facebook page Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava Listen & Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Spotify SoundCloud Overcast Stitcher Google Play SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

4 Touko 202051min

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