599: Joy at Work in the Age of AI: The Pain Is Optional (with Bree Groff)

599: Joy at Work in the Age of AI: The Pain Is Optional (with Bree Groff)

"Most people can't remember the last time they went to bed and thought: today was fun."

In this conversation with Bree Groff, author of Today Was Fun, we recenter the conversation on joy, pleasure, and meaning at work. Bree shares why her mom always said, "I have the best days," what it taught her about how we spend our lives, and why fun is not frivolous, it's the driver of creativity, performance, and belonging.

We also dive into the future of work and AI:

  • "If the AI is a train speeding up behind you, don't try to outrun it. Step off the tracks. Be the most human version of yourself."

  • Why we should measure success not only in revenue and customers, but in whether our companies create good days.

  • Why Mondays are not a renewable resource and how leaders can treat each day as a responsibility.

As Bree says: "The pain is optional, and the fun is free."

📘 Bree's book: Today Was Fun

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