Beyond Better with Stacy Ennis5 Marras 2025

225. How to thrive in a system built for men

What does it take to challenge bias, transform toxic cultures, and lead systemic change—especially in industries where women are still underrepresented?

I loved this conversation with Kae Kronthaler-Williams, a global software marketing executive and passionate advocate for women’s advancement in the workplace. Kae’s mission is bold and inspiring: to ensure every woman is seen, supported, and empowered to lead—because when barriers are removed for women, everyone benefits.

In this episode, we talk about what it really means to confront bias and challenge toxic workplace cultures while staying rooted in professionalism and purpose. She shares practical tools for responding to bias calmly and effectively, building support networks, and turning anger or frustration into meaningful action.

Kae’s new book, Not Made For You: How Women in Tech Can Challenge Bias, Claim Their Space, and Thrive in a System Built for Men encourages women to move from surviving to thriving—and calls on men to step up as allies in creating more inclusive workplaces. Kae’s vision for the next decade is one of systemic change, where women’s experiences are normalized and their leadership celebrated.

If you’ve ever struggled to speak up, make a hard decision, or find the courage to lead authentically—this episode will encourage and equip you to keep going. Kae reminds us that true change starts with courage, integrity, and a commitment to leave a legacy for the women who follow.

Learn more about Kae:

Book recommendation:

Long Walk to Freedom, by Nelson Mandela

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