Will Saletan: Sorry, but the Democrats Won the Shutdown
The Bulwark Podcast10 Marras 2025

Will Saletan: Sorry, but the Democrats Won the Shutdown

The very online crowd is very upset, but Dems did fight like Republicans. This was a longer shutdown than anything the Tea Party pulled and real pain was being caused. And Democrats have now made the cost of healthcare front and center—while Republicans keep showing that they are the party of billionaires, Mar-a-Lago soirées, and golden ballrooms. Plus, President Al Capone pardoned all the people who tried to help him steal the 2020 election, pro-democracy Americans must stay united against the evil of the administration’s deportation policy, and the effort to keep POTUS in a bubble backfired big time Sunday night at the Commanders’ stadium.

Will Saletan joins Tim Miller.

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Bill Kristol: Trump Is Humiliating Us

Bill Kristol: Trump Is Humiliating Us

The president's demented rant that the United States has to take Greenland because the Nobel committee has not awarded him his much coveted peace prize is farcical and embarrassing—we are in 25th Amendment territory. At the same time, Trump's alternate claim that conquering the island is about being tough on Russia is so phony since he's busy trying to help give Ukraine to Putin. Meanwhile, ICE agents' constant videotaping of members of the public may be tied to their use of facial recognition software. Plus, in this particularly horrible period of news, we are remembering the hope and optimism that pushed Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. to fight for a better America.Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller.show notes Tim's interview with "Minnesota Angry Man," Chris Ostroushko  The holiday-themed Bulwark Pod with Wright Thompson  Monday's "Morning Shots" Go to Dupe.com today and find similar products for less. It’s 100% free to use. Stop wasting money on brand names and start saving with Dupe.com today.

19 Tammi 48min

Wright Thompson: The Ghosts of Mississippi

Wright Thompson: The Ghosts of Mississippi

Official Mississippi doesn't really want to talk about the murder of Emmett Till—or teach about the murder of Emmett Till. Almost 71 years later, the intentional attempt to erase the crime lives on. On this MLK Day weekend, Wright joins Tim to discuss the role of history and black history in our public consciousness. Meanwhile, Trump and MAGA are busy trying to rewrite the history of modern-day political violence, including the thuggery of ICE agents. Plus, a ranking of the best SEC college towns, a tribute to Bob Weir, the impact of tariffs on farmers—as well as this year's Mardi Gras— and even the White House is starting to get concerned about the optics of Trump's deportation operation. ESPN's Wright Thompson joins Tim Miller for the holiday weekend pod.show notes Wright's book, "The Barn: The Secret History of a Murder in Mississippi"  JVL on Trump stashing America's money in Qatar  Wright's documentary he did with Mickey Hart, "Rhythm Masters"  Marc Caputo on White House concerns about the optics of deportation  Tim's playlist Text BULWARK to 64000 to get 20% off all IQBAR products, plus FREE shipping. Message and data rates may apply. For their buy 1 get 1 50% off deal, head to 3DayBlinds.com/THEBULWARK.

16 Tammi 1h 8min

Sam Stein: Trump Is Trying to Instigate Unrest

Sam Stein: Trump Is Trying to Instigate Unrest

For some reason, the president thinks he is winning the news cycle by occupying a great American city and ordering his agents to violently confront U.S. citizens. But polling and anecdotal evidence suggests otherwise. At the same time, Dems have got to stop tying themselves up in knots over what language to use about ICE. Just keep the messaging fight focused on Trump, Stephen Miller, Kristi Noem, and ICE. Plus, a strike on Iran is looking less likely, Jeff Bezos is a chicken and should sell The Post, the administration is pushing food rationing, our European allies are planning military exercises over the threat to Greenland, and what happened to the Epstein files? Sam Stein joins Tim Miller.show notes Lauren on the battle among Dems over the term, "Abolish ICE"  The reporter who applied to be an ICE agent  Sam's piece about the Dougs  Tim and Sam debating the worst Cabinet members  Send tips from on the ground in MN to bulwarkpodcast@thebulwark.com During Tovala's New Year Sale, you can get a FREE Tovala smart oven when you order meals 6+ times by heading to Tovala.com/BULWARK using my code BULWARK!

15 Tammi 55min

Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

To the people who have actually served in war zones—and been up close and personal in real do-or-die situations—the masked, heavily armed agents who are stalking our streets are thugs and cowards. And they would be nobodies without the badges and guns that have been gratuitously handed to them. Meanwhile, amid all the action around Venezuela, Russia's relentless attacks on Ukraine's power sources in the dead of winter is being overlooked by much of the American media. And Trump's fixation with  Greenland has the Swedes talking about making nuclear weapons. Plus, airstrikes on Iran alone would miss the strategic mark, Trump still hasn't stopped eight-plus wars, and the Havana Syndrome is real.Retired Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling joins Tim Miller.show notes Mark's piece on Iran Mark calling for ICE agents to remove their masks The most recent episode of Sarah's 'Illegal News' pod with Asha Rangappa Follow "Bulwark Takes" to get the latest "Command Post" from Mark Daniel Dale's fact check of Trump Send tips from on the ground in MN to bulwarkpodcast@thebulwark.com Get 50% off 1 month of Trade at drinktrade.com/BULWARK

14 Tammi 56min

Susan Glasser and Jacob Soboroff: A Dangerous Lame Duck

Susan Glasser and Jacob Soboroff: A Dangerous Lame Duck

Trump's low approval ratings may be giving people the idea that he is weak and disempowered. But Trump backed into a corner could well be more unconstrained and more dangerous—and it could also fuel his imperialist ambitions toward Greenland, an island he has been obsessed with owning since his first term. Meanwhile, DHS always knew people would die because of their mass deportation efforts and it still wholly accepted the risk of its military-style operations. But the opposition on the street is building. Plus, a year after the LA fires, a look at the role of disinformation in the disaster, the slow recovery, and the lack of emergency planning by government officials.Jacob Soboroff and Susan Glasser join Tim Miller.show notes Tim on the new videos coming out of Minneapolis Jacob's book, "Firestorm: The Great Los Angeles Fires and America’s New Age of Disaster" Susan's latest New Yorker column Friday's episode of The New Yorker's 'Political Scene' podcast Susan’s book with Peter Baker, “The Divider” The National Review piece on Greenland Susan referenced Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to joindeleteme.com/BULWARK and use promo code BULWARK at checkout. Get up to 30% off OneSkin with the code BULWARK at https://www.oneskin.co/BULWARK #oneskinpod

13 Tammi 1h 9min

Bill Kristol: This Is Accelerationist Authoritarianism

Bill Kristol: This Is Accelerationist Authoritarianism

Grandpa Trump looked like he was losing the pep in his step at the end of the year. But with him threatening the independence of the Fed, justifying the killing of an American in cold blood for teasing a federal agent, and toying with the idea of taking an ownership stake in oil companies, he's now dramatically ratcheting up his authoritarian tendencies. At the same time, he's losing sight of America First through his Venezuela distraction—and opening the door to challenges from MAGA true believers like Steve Bannon. Plus, Dems are playing a good hand in Alaska with Mary Peltola, Bill is a resist lib, and the heartwarming desire for freedom from the Iranian people.Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller.show notes Monday's "Morning Shots," including Mark Hertling's contribution Mary Peltola's Senate campaign launch

12 Tammi 59min

Anne Applebaum and Jacob Frey: Using Lies to Justify Violence

Anne Applebaum and Jacob Frey: Using Lies to Justify Violence

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey says ICE descended on his city with hopes of rounding up undocumented Somalis. When agents couldn't find any, they started driving around terrorizing people. And now with the killing of Renee Good, they are clearly making the city less safe. But federal officials are also lying about Good's actions before the shooting and her character—and with their bold claims of absolute immunity for ICE agents. More broadly, the administration is trying to intimidate ordinary citizens from documenting the masked agents deployed around the country. Plus, Trump is acting like a conqueror from the Middle Ages when he claims a right to Venezuela's oil, Putin is trying to mask the weakness of Russia's economy, Europeans are back to being anxious over Greenland, and Iranians are taking to the streets again.Anne Applebaum and Mayor Jacob Frey join Tim Miller for the weekend pod.show notes Tim’s ‘Bulwark Take ‘on the new footage from Minneapolis Anne's latest pod episode about how federal agents are violating the rights of Americans Anne's latest piece on Venezuela Tim's interview with George Retes Tim's playlist Anne’s “book club” recommendations: The Captive Mind The Oppermanns The Director The Choice of Comrades What We Can Know

9 Tammi 1h 9min

Ryan Grim: An Unconscionable Reaction to a Summary Execution

Ryan Grim: An Unconscionable Reaction to a Summary Execution

Most law enforcement departments train officers not to stand in front of vehicles—or shoot at moving ones—but masked ICE agents in Minneapolis did just that after descending on Renee Good's Honda Pilot and spitting out conflicting instructions to her. Not only did the president of the United States lie about the condition of the officer who shot her, Vance and Noem disparaged the deceased 37-year-old mother of three. Meanwhile, Americans are not down with the idea of the US running Venezuela. And the manosphere podcast world, which helped Trump win the election, is now feeling disillusioned and embarrassed about his betrayal of his "peace president" promise—along with his handling of the Epstein files. Plus, a discourse on white people, a consideration of Epstein's influence with the rich and powerful, and a meaty exchange over Kamala courting the Liz Cheney wing while bypassing the left's demands on Gaza. Ryan Grim joins Tim Miller.show notes: Drop Site news Ryan's 2022 piece on progressive advocacy groups Get 20% off when you go to trustandwill.com/BULWARK

8 Tammi 1h 9min

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