#327 DEATH MATCH: Puppets vs Justice Side 2
Metal Nerdery Podcast20 Marras 2025

#327 DEATH MATCH: Puppets vs Justice Side 2

“Those guys are parents to 2 babies…and we’re fighting over which baby is cuter…”

With SIDE 2 of our PUPPETS VS JUSTICE HEAD-TO-HEAD DEATH MATCH, things are a bit trickier, because the math doesn’t sync up perfectly track for track. But not to worry, because we worked out all the math to try and keep things as “Even Steven” as possible.

“You go to the peak of your ability…that’s what Justice was…it was their Hemispheres…”

As we noted previously on the SIDE 1 episode, PUPPETS represents the end of the Cliff Burton era, and JUSTICE represents the beginning of the Jason Newsted era. On SIDE 2, we got deeper into the weeds, particularly with regard to the lyrical subject matter, the style and structure of the songs, and the personal impact and perspective of the instrumentals. We’re not saying that this was a complete blowout, and we’re not saying that the outcome was predictable by any means, but what we ARE saying is that the final verdict was actually a bit more shocking than we originally anticipated.

“What are they saying, dude?”

Stick around until the very end of the episode to discover the power of “frontmasking” after you JOIN US for the nail-biting conclusion to our PUPPETS VS JUSTICE HEAD-TO-HEAD DEATH MATCH as we take on SIDE 2.

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Show Notes:

(00:01): “Kiss my FIRE…” / The pointlessness of DST…we can just stop, right? / “We’re never gonna win this argument…”/ “Why do you gotta bitch about it?”/ “That was for you, Phil…”/

“You just fingered me, I wanted to be fisted…”/ ***WELCOME BACK TO THE METAL NERDERY PODCAST!!!*** / “We left y’all on a cliffhanger…”/ “I mean…I mean…I mean…”/ PATREON US AT patreon.com/metalnerderypodcast / #PatreonShoutout / ***SOCIAL MEDIA US at #metalnerderypodcast on #YouTube #TikTok #InstaGram #FaceBook / ***EMAIL US at metalnerdery@gmail.com ***/ Some early concert memories…/ ***VOICEMAIL US AT 980-666-8182!!!*** / Our sincerest apologies to #EmberingEffigy for the mistaken identity… / New Embering Effigy album OUT NOW… / #BehindTheMetal / ***WARNING: #listenerdiscretionisadvised ***/

(08:23): #TheDocket METAL NERDERY PODCAST PRESENTS: SIDE 2 OF THE MOP VS AJFA HEAD-TO-HEAD DEATH MATCH!!! / “Side 2 is gonna be harder than when I was 15…”/

“Those are the good times…I could cut a mirror with this thing…”/ “My move is…I grab the butt…”/ “You’re not Little Bo Peep and I’m not Zorro…”/

(11:27): DISPOSABLE HEROES (Master Of Puppets – 1986) / “I was born for dying…”/

“Dismount, perfect…10/10…”/ The differences between #MOP and #AJFA / THE SHORTEST STRAW (…And Justice For All – 1988) / “I’m sorry…it already wins…”/ “You can kinda hear the bass on this part too…a little bit…”/ “By far, Lars’ best album…”/ “I wonder if that was a mistake…”/ #happyaccidents / #TheVerdict / “It’s kinda almost like when she jams a finger up your butt and you’re kinda like ‘I don’t know what I think about it…I kinda like it’…”

(24:42): HARVESTER OF SORROW / “Creamy…that’s the word of the episode…again…twice…”/ #MesaBoogie / “Lars is chewing gum and playing drums at the same time…”/ “I had to do that, because he does that live…”/ LEPER MESSIAH / “I always thought that was James saying that…”/ “It’s more heavy metal than thrash…”/ “This is where it changes…now it’s a different song…”/ “If you blend Harvester and Frayed together…”/ “Do you think Harvester would have fit on The Black Album?”/ “If you were gonna yank one right off The Black Album and replace it with Harvester…”/ “Maybe…the traveling song…”/

THE FRAYED ENDS OF SANITY / “And the China boy…the China boy makes it…”/ #China /

“I come almost every time when I hear that part…even now…”/ “You can just listen in, Bill, if you want to…”/ “Young, angry…and unhinged…”/ “The Justice album is what made them huge…”/ “What did #Rush do after Hemispheres? They did Permanent

Waves…Hemispheres was their most progressive album…”/ “You max out…” / “The Black Album is closer to Puppets than AJFA…”/ “You go to the peak of your ability…that’s what Justice was…it was their Hemispheres…”/ #Rushtallica / #TheVerdict / “That’s a clear blowout…”

(51:23): “It’s the James solo part…that’s what you’ve gotta do for both…”/ TO LIVE IS TO DIE / “We gotta hear the James solo…because that’s what makes it…”/ “The drums get frustrated…you can hear it…”/ “I think we’ve gotta hear the spoken word part…It’s right here, so we may as well grab it…”/ “Really? Why!?”/ ORION / “That riff…is nothing but sack…” / “That’s heavy metal, dude…”/ #TheVerdict / #NoDraws

(1:09:44): DAMAGE INC. / “It’s about to get thrashy up in here…”/ “I never understood when my parents did that when I was younger…now I get it…”/ #CarnivalCruise / “I think Kerry King said this was his favorite #Metallica song…”/ DYERS EVE / “Surgical…precise…clinical…”/ “That one is personal…VERY personal…”/ “Those guys are parents to 2 babies…and we’re fighting over which baby’s cuter…” / #TheVerdict / “So here’s the tally…for #bolth Side 1 and Side 2…” / “It was kind of a draw…in a way…”/ “For the future, we should do a Side 2 better than Side 1 podcast…” / ***What do YOU think!? EMAIL US at metalnerdery@gmail.com and let us know!!!*** / #outroreel / #untilthenext / #backmaskingASMR / “…and then play it backwards…the whole thing…”/ “It’d be like reverse backmasking…front masking…foremasking…” / “What are they saying, dude?” / “Edud, gniyas yeht era tahw?”

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