Divergent States

Divergent States

Divergent States cuts through psychedelic hype with grounded, curious conversations about what these substances actually do.


Hosted by 3L1T3, founder of r/Psychonaut, the world’s largest psychedelic harm-reduction community, and co-hosted by Bryan, a USMC veteran and advocate for psychedelic healing, the show brings together lived experience, science, and culture without losing its sense of humor.


This isn’t a spiritual podcast.
This isn’t a marketing platform.


No mysticism. No sales pitch. Just real conversations, harm reduction, and honest questions.


We explore how psychedelics shape mental health, creativity, and society, from underground use and peer-support communities to clinical trials, therapy rooms, and shifting public attitudes. Some episodes get serious. Some get weird. All of them are grounded in respect for the people actually taking these substances and living with the outcomes.


Guests include Rick Doblin, Reggie Watts, Leonard Pickard, Anne Wagner, Hamilton Morris, and Rick Strassman.


Divergent States is built on the same principles that made r/Psychonaut work at scale: curiosity without gullibility, openness without losing your footing, and safety without killing the joy.


If you’re looking for guru worship, this isn’t your show.


If you’re looking for thoughtful, funny, and grounded conversations about psychedelics and the lives they touch, welcome to Divergent States.


New episodes every two weeks.

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Who Should Be Allowed to Guide Psychedelic Experiences? | Dori Lewis

Who Should Be Allowed to Guide Psychedelic Experiences? | Dori Lewis

Dori Lewis is a psychotherapist, clinical supervisor, Natural Medicine Facilitator, and Co-Founder of Elemental Psychedelics. She also owns Reflective Healing Center, one of Colorado's licensed psyche...

23 Kesä 55min

The NFL Broke His Brain… Then Ibogaine Changed Everything | Robert Gallery

The NFL Broke His Brain… Then Ibogaine Changed Everything | Robert Gallery

Former NFL player and College Football Hall of Famer Robert Gallery joins Divergent States for one of the most raw conversations we’ve had on the show. After retiring from professional football, Rober...

8 Kesä 53min

The Hidden Politics of Psychedelic Media | Dennis Walker

The Hidden Politics of Psychedelic Media | Dennis Walker

Dennis Walker joins Divergent States to unpack how psychedelic stories actually become “news,” why sensationalism dominates drug coverage, and how media narratives shape public perception around psych...

19 Touko 1h 2min

Psychedelics Don’t Fix Your Life… Here’s What They Actually Do | Talia Eisenberg

Psychedelics Don’t Fix Your Life… Here’s What They Actually Do | Talia Eisenberg

Psychedelics don’t fix your life. They don’t make you a better person. They don’t replace responsibility. And they don’t solve the problems waiting for you when you come back. In this episode, we sit ...

5 Touko 54min

Psilocybin Therapy Works… But Not Like You Think, with Compass Pathways

Psilocybin Therapy Works… But Not Like You Think, with Compass Pathways

If one or two psychedelic sessions can produce measurable improvements in treatment-resistant depression, why does modern psychiatry still rely on daily medication? In this episode of Divergent States...

21 Huhti 53min

Manuela Picq: The People Behind the Coca Leaf - The Many Faces of Coca Part Three

Manuela Picq: The People Behind the Coca Leaf - The Many Faces of Coca Part Three

This is the human center of The Many Faces of Coca. By the time coca enters Western conversations, it’s already been abstracted—reduced to policy, drugs, or crime. But for millions of people, coca isn...

6 Huhti 47min

Dennis McKenna: The Chemistry Behind the Coca Leaf - The Many Faces of Coca Part Two

Dennis McKenna: The Chemistry Behind the Coca Leaf - The Many Faces of Coca Part Two

The Many Faces of Coca – Part Two In Part Two of the Many Faces of Coca series, 3L1T3 and Bryan sit down with renowned ethnopharmacologist Dennis McKenna to explore the science behind the coca leaf. P...

16 Maalis 1h 2min

Wade Davis: From Sacred Leaf to Global Scapegoat - The Many Faces of Coca Part One

Wade Davis: From Sacred Leaf to Global Scapegoat - The Many Faces of Coca Part One

In Part One of The Many Faces of Coca, 3L1T3 and Bryan sit down with Wade Davis to unpack the long history of the coca leaf and how a plant used for over 8,000 years became globally criminalized. This...

2 Maalis 59min

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