Divergent States

Divergent States

Divergent States cuts through psychedelic hype with grounded, curious conversations about what these substances actually do.


Hosted by 3L1T3, founder of r/Psychonaut, the world’s largest psychedelic harm-reduction community, and co-hosted by Bryan, a USMC veteran and advocate for psychedelic healing, the show brings together lived experience, science, and culture without losing its sense of humor.


This isn’t a spiritual podcast.
This isn’t a marketing platform.


No mysticism. No sales pitch. Just real conversations, harm reduction, and honest questions.


We explore how psychedelics shape mental health, creativity, and society, from underground use and peer-support communities to clinical trials, therapy rooms, and shifting public attitudes. Some episodes get serious. Some get weird. All of them are grounded in respect for the people actually taking these substances and living with the outcomes.


Guests include Rick Doblin, Reggie Watts, Leonard Pickard, Anne Wagner, Hamilton Morris, and Rick Strassman.


Divergent States is built on the same principles that made r/Psychonaut work at scale: curiosity without gullibility, openness without losing your footing, and safety without killing the joy.


If you’re looking for guru worship, this isn’t your show.


If you’re looking for thoughtful, funny, and grounded conversations about psychedelics and the lives they touch, welcome to Divergent States.


New episodes every two weeks.

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Psilocybin Therapy Works… But Not Like You Think, with Compass Pathways

Psilocybin Therapy Works… But Not Like You Think, with Compass Pathways

If one or two psychedelic sessions can produce measurable improvements in treatment-resistant depression, why does modern psychiatry still rely on daily medication? In this episode of Divergent States...

21 Huhti 54min

Manuela Picq: The People Behind the Coca Leaf - The Many Faces of Coca Part Three

Manuela Picq: The People Behind the Coca Leaf - The Many Faces of Coca Part Three

This is the human center of The Many Faces of Coca. By the time coca enters Western conversations, it’s already been abstracted—reduced to policy, drugs, or crime. But for millions of people, coca isn...

6 Huhti 48min

Dennis McKenna: The Chemistry Behind the Coca Leaf - The Many Faces of Coca Part Two

Dennis McKenna: The Chemistry Behind the Coca Leaf - The Many Faces of Coca Part Two

The Many Faces of Coca – Part Two In Part Two of the Many Faces of Coca series, 3L1T3 and Bryan sit down with renowned ethnopharmacologist Dennis McKenna to explore the science behind the coca leaf. P...

16 Maalis 1h 3min

Wade Davis: From Sacred Leaf to Global Scapegoat - The Many Faces of Coca Part One

Wade Davis: From Sacred Leaf to Global Scapegoat - The Many Faces of Coca Part One

In Part One of The Many Faces of Coca, 3L1T3 and Bryan sit down with Wade Davis to unpack the long history of the coca leaf and how a plant used for over 8,000 years became globally criminalized. This...

2 Maalis 1h

ETEREO: What No One Tells You About Iboga Work

ETEREO: What No One Tells You About Iboga Work

Iboga has a reputation. It’s intense. It’s long. It carries real risk. And for some people, it’s life-changing. But what actually happens inside a retreat container? And what does this work look like ...

16 Helmi 50min

Cesar Marin: Microdosing, Midlife, and Reinvention

Cesar Marin: Microdosing, Midlife, and Reinvention

What happens when a 25-year career at CNN ends — and a new life begins? In this episode of Divergent States, we talk with Cesar Marin, former CNN producer and founder of Microdosing Over 50, about how...

2 Helmi 57min

Shane Mauss: How Psychedelics Actually Change the Mind

Shane Mauss: How Psychedelics Actually Change the Mind

What really happens when psychedelics change someone, and why do some people come back grounded while others spiral into ego, conspiracy, or spiritual bypassing? In this long-form conversation, comedi...

19 Tammi 1h 8min

Inside Season Two: Integration, Not Escapism

Inside Season Two: Integration, Not Escapism

Season Two of Divergent States is about something simple and surprisingly rare: exploring altered states without losing touch with reality. In this preview episode, 3L1T3 and Bryan share two short mom...

7 Tammi 12min

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