
E172 Kevin's Friend Paloma
Jacob shares holiday sobriety tips in the open. Our guest this week shares the story of her ex-partner Kevin, a talented and magnetic musician whose life was tragically cut short due to kratom toxicit...
9 Marras 202557min

E 171 Eric O.
In the intro, Lily and Charlie discuss the isolating nature of Kratom addiction and the importance of reaching out to others for support and community. Lily interviews Eric O, who shares his personal ...
2 Marras 20251h

E170 Ali
In the intro, Jacob welcomes co-host Natalie (episodes 15 and 132) back to the podcast as they catch up on her life, career as a paramedic, and her perspective on seeing substance use issues in the fi...
26 Loka 202543min

E169 Katja - Perspective from a Partner
In the open, Charlie and Nolan talk about the YouTuber interview from a couple weeks ago. In the interview, Katja shares with Lily her story of discovering the kava and kratom bar scene while living i...
19 Loka 202558min

E168 Katie Herzog - Naltrexone & The Sinclair Method
This week features an interview Katie Herzog, author of the book "Drink Your Way Sober." Please be aware, you cannot use the Sinclair Method with kratom as it will cause precipitated withdrawals. The ...
12 Loka 202555min

E167 YouTuber Metta Beshay on Kratom & 7-OH
Nolan interviews Metta Beshay, who posted a video recently named "The Insane World of Kratom & 7-OH" on YouTube. HEADS UP: This guest talks about recent kratom use and is not actively committed to kr...
5 Loka 20251h 5min

E166 Journalist David Hudnall on Rise of 7-OH in Kansas City and Beyond
In the open, Nolan and Lily give tips on tapering. Nolan's quitting kratom book: https://a.co/d/b1cgJUJ In the interview, David Hudnall, a journalist from the Kansas City Star, discusses his investi...
28 Syys 202556min

E165 Justine
Jacob and Lily talk getting into hobbies during recovery. In the interview, Justine shares her quitting kratom journey. She turned to kratom to manage pain and escalated into a serious health crisis t...
21 Syys 202557min



















