The General & The Journalist

The General & The Journalist

How wars start, how they are won and what they leave behind them.


General Sir Patrick Sanders and Tom Newton Dunn first met in a war zone. Drawing on their real-life experience of armed conflict, they bring you the latest from Ukraine, Gaza and the dozens of other bitter struggles being fought across our increasingly divided planet.


From interviews with key people on the frontlines of modern warfare to discussing the future of nuclear weapons and where Russia will attack next, this podcast from The Times and The Sunday Times also faces up to the biggest question - how ready are we for war, right now, if we had to fight one?

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India the new giant: will it be forced to pick a side?

India the new giant: will it be forced to pick a side?

This week, Patrick and Tom turn their attention to India - the world’s most populous country, a rising military power, and a state determined to hold its ground between East and West. As President Xi ...

24 Syys 202544min

Whose wars do we care about and why, with war reporter Anthony Loyd

Whose wars do we care about and why, with war reporter Anthony Loyd

This week Tom is joined by award-winning war correspondent Anthony Loyd for a special “Journalist & Journalist” edition. Together, they explore why some wars capture global attention while others, equ...

17 Syys 202544min

China’s power: Is Xi's strategy to supplant the West working? (Part 2)

China’s power: Is Xi's strategy to supplant the West working? (Part 2)

This week, Patrick and Tom turn from China’s military power to its less visible, but no less powerful, tools of economic dominance. Their guest, Sam Olsen is a geopolitical strategist with decades of ...

10 Syys 202540min

China’s power: The PLA vs the USA (Part 1)

China’s power: The PLA vs the USA (Part 1)

The People’s Liberation Army put on one of the largest military displays in China’s modern history this week as the country marked the 80th anniversary of Japan’s surrender in the Second World War. Ac...

3 Syys 202552min

The story of Ukraine's heroic 'Iron People'

The story of Ukraine's heroic 'Iron People'

This week, Tom and Patrick take you inside Ukraine’s railways, the country’s lifeline since the full-scale Russian invasion began. With over 20,000 kilometres of track, they’ve evacuated millions, fer...

27 Elo 202532min

Why Trump doesn't understand Putin, with Gen Sir Nick Carter

Why Trump doesn't understand Putin, with Gen Sir Nick Carter

Sir Patrick's away this week, so Tom persuaded another four-star General, the UK's former Chief of the Defence Staff, Sir Nick Carter, to join him instead. They discuss whether, in the wake of the Ala...

20 Elo 202538min

What is the Israeli strategy for Gaza?

What is the Israeli strategy for Gaza?

Tom and Patrick discuss Israel’s new Gaza strategy. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has set a controversial new goal - the full occupation of Gaza, starting with Gaza City. His security cabinet has ...

13 Elo 202546min

The future of war, with U.S. General James Rainey

The future of war, with U.S. General James Rainey

Patrick and Tom sit down with General James E. Rainey, the head of the United States Army Futures Command, to discuss what the wars of tomorrow will look like. Without doubt we are living through a pe...

6 Elo 202543min

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