SpyCast
SpyCast, the official podcast of the International Spy Museum, is a journey into the shadows of international espionage. Each week, host Sasha Ingber brings you the latest insights and intriguing tales from spies, secret agents, and covert communicators, with a focus on how this secret world reaches us all in our everyday lives. Tune in to discover the critical role intelligence has played throughout history and today. Brought to you from Airwave, Goat Rodeo, and the International Spy Museum. The Spy Museum does not endorse, approve, or support the opinions stated by guest speakers. Statements made by speakers do not represent the position or opinion of the International Spy Museum.

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“Bond After Fleming, the Continuation of an Icon” – with Mark Edlitz

“Bond After Fleming, the Continuation of an Icon” – with Mark Edlitz

Summary Mark Edlitz (X, LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss how James Bond lived on in literature after the death of Ian Fleming. Mark is an author and pop culture expert.  What You’ll Learn Intelligence The original Fleming novels Intellectual property and author’s rights to iconic characters The evolution of Bond as a literary character  The relationship between the Bond books and the Bond movies Reflections Can icons ever truly die? Just how malleable are our favorite characters? And much, much more … Resources  SURFACE SKIM *Spotlight Resource* James Bond After Fleming: The Continuation Novels, Mark Edlitz (2023) *SpyCasts* The James Bond Collector with Mike VanBlaricum (2024) 70th Anniversary of James Bond, Special with Alexis Albion on 007, Part 1 of 2 (2023) 70th Anniversary of James Bond, Special with Alexis Albion on 007, Part 2 of 2 (2023) My Life Looking at Spies and the Media with Paul Lashmar (2022) *Beginner Resources* James Bond Books: The Continuation Novels, D. Leigh, The James Bond Dossier (2024) [Short biographies of each continuation author] Ian Fleming – Life Story, Short Biographies, YouTube (2023) [8 min. video] Can I do a sequel to someone else's book or movie? Miller IP Law (n.d.) [Short article] DEEPER DIVE Books Bond, James Bond: Exploring the Shaken and Stirred History of Ian Fleming’s 007, B. Gilmore & M. Kalinowski (Mango, 2022) The Many Lives of James Bond: How the Creators of 007 Have Decoded the Superspy, M. Edlitz (Lyons Press, 2019) James Bond: The Evolution of the World's Most Famous Spy, A. Geiger (CompanionHouse Books, 2016)  Primary Sources  An Interview with Raymond Benson (2023) License Renewed: Interview with John Gardner (1994) Gardner Assumes Ian Fleming's Pen To Keep James Bond Alive (1988) An Interview with Kingsley Amis (1975)  Allen Dulles and Ian Fleming (1964)  Books of the Times (1963)  *Wildcard Resource* James Bond is a fantastically well-known character, but he is not technically in the public domain. Characters that do exist in the public domain include Count Dracula, Frankenstein’s Monster, Sherlock Holmes, and Robin Hood.  Studying the origins of these characters is fascinating. Take Robin Hood, for example – The first written mention of the heroic outlaw comes from the poem “The Vision of Piers Plowman” by William Langland, written in 1380. That’s 593 years before Disney’s classic adaptation of the story!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

26 Maalis 20241h 3min

“The Skinny on American Intelligence & the Law” – with D.C. “Super Lawyer” Mark Zaid

“The Skinny on American Intelligence & the Law” – with D.C. “Super Lawyer” Mark Zaid

Summary Mark Zaid (X, LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss American intelligence and the law. You’ve heard of a “lawyer to the stars,” Mark is the “lawyer to the spies” What You’ll Learn Intelligence The quirks of being a lawyer in this space How the Espionage Act works in practice  The trial of the Rosenbergs The origins of FOIA and its purpose The Legal foundations underpinning espionage and intelligence Reflections Challenging authority  The delicate balance of secrecy And much, much more … Quotes of the Week “I still love working every day, 30 years later, because there's still something new. As much as I fight for declassification and transparency, I will at times also see information and learn of events where I go, “Oh, I get it. Yeah, that stuff cannot be known. That's incredible what we did. That's pretty wild.” – Mark Zaid. Resources  SURFACE SKIM *SpyCasts* Agent of Betrayal, FBI Spy Robert Hanssen with CBS’ Major Garrett and Friends (2023) David Petraeus on Ukraine & Intelligence with the former CIA Director & 4* General (2023) Havana Syndrome – A Panel featuring Nicky Woolf, Marc Polymeropoulos, and Mark Zaid (2023)  How Artificial Intelligence is Changing the Spy Game with Mike Susong (2023)  *Beginner Resources* What Is a Whistleblower? Protections, Law, Importance, and Example, W. Kenton, Investopedia (2022) [Short article] What is a Lawyer? American Bar Association (2019) [Short article] Legal System Basics, CrashCourse, YouTube (2015) [8 min. video] DEEPER DIVE Books State of Silence: The Espionage Act and the Rise of America's Secrecy Regime, S. Lebovic (Basic Books, 2023) Ethel Rosenberg, A. Sebba (Griffin, 2022) Spies on Trial: True Tales of Espionage in the Courtroom, C. C. Kuhne (Rowman & Littlefield Publishers, 2019) Primary Sources  A Letter from Aldrich Ames on Polygraph Testing (2000) Whistle Blower Protection Act (1989)   DoD Polygraph Program (1984) National Security Decision Directive 84 (1983) Inspector General Act (1978) Freedom of Information Act (1966)  Administrative Procedure Act (1946)  Espionage Act (1917) *Wildcard Resource* John Adams, a 2008 HBO Mini-Series chronicling the Founding Father’s role in early America John Adams, much like Mark, was a lawyer dedicated to the right to representation. Adams, ever dedicated to the honor of his profession, was the only attorney who agreed to defend the British soldiers involved in the Boston Massacre. You can read the whole trial here.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

19 Maalis 20241h 4min

Telling Americans About China (and Intelligence) – with Sara Castro

Telling Americans About China (and Intelligence) – with Sara Castro

Summary Dr. Sara Castro (LinkedIn, Bio) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the history of US-China diplomacy. Sara is an Associate Professor of History at the United States Air Force Academy.  What You’ll Learn Intelligence The Dixie Mission  The history of US-China relations dating back to the Opium Wars China’s involvement with the OSS during WWII How Mao Zedong & Chiang Kai-shek built modern China Reflections Understanding and empathy Knowledge is power  And much, much more … Resources  SURFACE SKIM *Spotlight Resource* Mission to Mao: US Intelligence in China during World War II, Sara B. Castro, (Georgetown University Press, 2024)  *SpyCasts* Making Sense of China, Taiwan, & America Pacific Intelligence with Bonny Lin (2023) China’s Corporate Spy War with CNBC’s Eamon Javers (2023) Trafficking Data: The Digital Struggle with China with Aynne Kokas (2022) *Beginner Resources* Beyond the Balloon: The Complicated History Behind US-China Relations, Voice of America, YouTube (2023) [8 min. video] China’s Overlooked Role in World War II, C. Klein, The History Channel (2022) [Short article] Secret Agents, Secret Armies: The Short Happy Life of the OSS, The National World War II Museum (2020) [Short article] DEEPER DIVE Books Spies and Lies: How China's Greatest Covert Operations Fooled the World, A. Joske (Hardie Grant, 2022)  The Hundred-Year Marathon: China's Secret Strategy to Replace America as the Global Superpower, M. Pillsbury (St. Martin’s Griffin, 2016)  Forgotten Ally: China's World War II, 1937–1945, R. Mitter (Mariner Books, 2013) Primary Sources  Dixie Mission Remembered in Beijing (2004) U.S.-PRC Political Negotiations, 1967-1984 (1985) CIA Intelligence Report: Mao’s “Cultural Revolution” (1967) War Report: Office of Strategic Services: Operations in the Field (1949)  Madame Chiang Kai-Shek Address to the U.S. House of Representatives (1943) Treaty Of Tianjin (1858) Treaty Of Wangxia (1844)  *Wildcard Resource* After the signing of the SACO Treaty in 1942, Chinese spymaster Dai Li took command of the US-China intelligence cooperation during World War II.  Six decades later in 2005, Nickelodeon premiered the now immensely popular American anime series Avatar: The Last Airbender. In the series, the elite secret police agency of fictional capital city Ba Sing Se are appropriately named, The Dai Li.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12 Maalis 20241h 4min

The James Bond Collector - with Mike VanBlaricum

The James Bond Collector - with Mike VanBlaricum

Summary Mike VanBlaricum (X; LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss his journey as a James Bond fanatic and collector. Mike is the President of the Ian Fleming Foundation. What You’ll Learn Intelligence How Mike became an obsessive James Bond collector with 10,000 artifacts Mike’s favorite Bond cars, movies, and books How From Russia with Love was one of John F Kennedy’s favorite books Mike’s tips on the best place to start if you want to read the Bond novels Reflections The passion of a collector Pop culture influencing the “real” world And much, much more … Quotes of the Week “I've always been fascinated about the study of creativity. And so, between wanting to understand spy craft and that whole human side as well as creativity, creativity like Fleming – How one person can change popular culture, you know, ultimately, something that came out of his mind can change popular culture is just fascinating to me.” – Mike VanBlaricum Resources SURFACE SKIM *SpyCasts* 70th Anniversary of James Bond, Special with Alexis Albion on 007, Part 1 of 2 (2023) 70th Anniversary of James Bond, Special with Alexis Albion on 007, Part 2 of 2 (2023) CIA Officers Turned Authors with David McCloskey and James Stejskal (2022) My Life Looking at Spies and the Media with Paul Lashmar (2022) *Beginner Resources* How to Watch All the James Bond 007 Movies in Order, P. Saperstein, Variety (2023) [Short article] Bond In Motion Exhibition at the International Spy Museum! International Spy Museum (2024) [2 min. video] Ian Fleming Life Timeline, Ian Fleming Publications (n.d.) [Timeline] DEEPER DIVE Books For Your Eyes Only: Ian Fleming + James Bond, B. Macintyre (Bloomsbury USA, 2008) Licence to Thrill: A Cultural History of the James Bond Films, J. Chapman (I.B. Tauris, 2008) Ian Fleming, A. Lycett (St. Martin’s Press, 1995) Primary Sources  FBI Targeted a Fictional Spy (1980) E. Germany Brands 007 As ‘Fascist’ (1965) Memorandum For the Record from Marshall S. Carter (1964) Our Spy-Boss Who Loved Bond by Allen Dulles (1964) A Spy’s Spy, a Knight vs. Dragon – That Was the Image of James Bond (1964) *Wildcard Resource* Who’s The Deadliest Bond? Pierce Brosnan – And by a high margin! Brosnan’s 007 had an average of 27 kills per movie. His runner-up, Roger Moore, clocked in an average of 16.6. o Read the stats by movie here. License to Kill indeed... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

5 Maalis 20241h 5min

A CIA Psychologist on the Minds of World Leaders, Pt. 2 with Dr. Ursula Wilder

A CIA Psychologist on the Minds of World Leaders, Pt. 2 with Dr. Ursula Wilder

Summary Dr. Ursula Wilder (LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the intersections between psychology and intelligence. Ursula is a clinical psychologist with over two decades of experience working at the Central Intelligence Agency.  What You’ll Learn Intelligence How psychology can be useful to national security Historical examples of leadership analysis  Leadership personality assessments & the Cuban Missile Crisis Psychoanalytic theory and espionage  Reflections Human nature throughout history History repeating itself  And much, much more … Quotes of the Week “Together, these documents are quite powerful. The psych assessments are very, very carefully, tightly held and are classified at a high level. Every intelligence officer has this fantasy about seeing the file that's kept on them by the opponents.” – Dr. Ursula Wilder. Resources  SURFACE SKIM *SpyCasts* Agent of Betrayal, FBI Spy Robert Hanssen with CBS’ Major Garrett and Friends (2023) The North Korean Defector with Former DPRK Agent Kim, Hyun Woo (2023) SPY@20 – “The Spy of the Century” with Curators Alexis and Andrew on Kim Philby (2022) “How Spies Think” – 10 Lessons in Intelligence with Sir David Omand (2020) *Beginner Resources* What is Psychoanalysis? Institute of Psychoanalysis, YouTube (2011) [3 min. video] Psychologists in the CIA, American Psychological Association (2002) [Short article] 7 Reasons to Study Psychology, University of Toronto (n.d.) [Short article] DEEPER DIVE Books Freud and Beyond, S. A. Mitchell (Basic Books, 2016) Narcissism and Politics: Dreams of Glory, J. M. Post (Cambridge University Press, 2014) The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements, E. Hoffer (Harper Perennial Modern Classics, 2010)  Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln, D. K. Goodwin (Simon & Schuster, 2004) Leaders, Fools, and Impostors: Essays on the Psychology of Leadership, M. F. R. Kets de Vries (iUniverse, 2003)  Primary Sources  Charles de Gaulle to Pamela Digby Churchill (1942)  Blood, Toil, Tears and Sweat (1940) Memoirs of Ulysses S. Grant (1885) Gettysburg Address (1863)  House Divided Speech (1858) Excerpt on Cleopatra from Plutarch's Life of Julius Caesar (ca. 2nd century AD) Plutarch’s The Life of Alexander (ca. 2nd century AD)  Appian’s The Civil Wars (ca. 2nd century AD)  Virgil’s The Aeneid (19 B.C.E)  *Wildcard Resource* On Dreams by Sigmund Freud (1901) In this simplified version of the father of psychoanalysis’ seminal book The Interpretation of Dreams, you can get a small taste for Freudian philosophy. Freud believed that dreams were a reflection of the subconscious mind and that studying a person’s dreams can elucidate their inner wants and needs. What are your dreams telling you?  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

27 Helmi 20241h

A CIA Psychologist on the Minds of World Leaders, Pt. 1 with Dr. Ursula Wilder

A CIA Psychologist on the Minds of World Leaders, Pt. 1 with Dr. Ursula Wilder

Summary Dr. Ursula Wilder (LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the intersections between psychology and intelligence. Ursula is a clinical psychologist with over two decades of experience working at the Central Intelligence Agency.  What You’ll Learn Intelligence How psychology can be useful to national security Historical examples of leadership analysis  Leadership personality assessments & the Cuban Missile Crisis Psychoanalytic theory and espionage  Reflections Human nature throughout history History repeating itself  And much, much more … Quotes of the Week “Together, these documents are quite powerful. The psych assessments are very, very carefully, tightly held and are classified at a high level. Every intelligence officer has this fantasy about seeing the file that's kept on them by the opponents.” Resources  SURFACE SKIM *SpyCasts* Agent of Betrayal, FBI Spy Robert Hanssen with CBS’ Major Garrett and Friends (2023) The North Korean Defector with Former DPRK Agent Kim, Hyun Woo (2023) SPY@20 – “The Spy of the Century” with Curators Alexis and Andrew on Kim Philby (2022) “How Spies Think” – 10 Lessons in Intelligence with Sir David Omand (2020) *Beginner Resources* What is Psychoanalysis? Institute of Psychoanalysis, YouTube (2011) [3 min. video] Psychologists in the CIA, American Psychological Association (2002) [Short article] 7 Reasons to Study Psychology, University of Toronto (n.d.) [Short article] DEEPER DIVE Books Freud and Beyond, S. A. Mitchell (Basic Books, 2016) Narcissism and Politics: Dreams of Glory, J. M. Post (Cambridge University Press, 2014) The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements, E. Hoffer (Harper Perennial Modern Classics, 2010)  Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln, D. K. Goodwin (Simon & Schuster, 2004) Leaders, Fools, and Impostors: Essays on the Psychology of Leadership, M. F. R. Kets de Vries (iUniverse, 2003)  Primary Sources  Charles de Gaulle to Pamela Digby Churchill (1942)  Blood, Toil, Tears and Sweat (1940) Memoirs of Ulysses S. Grant (1885) Gettysburg Address (1863)  House Divided Speech (1858) Excerpt on Cleopatra from Plutarch's Life of Julius Caesar (ca. 2nd century AD) Plutarch’s The Life of Alexander (ca. 2nd century AD)  Appian’s The Civil Wars (ca. 2nd century AD)  Virgil’s The Aeneid (19 B.C.E)  *Wildcard Resource* On Dreams by Sigmund Freud (1901) In this simplified version of the father of psychoanalysis’ seminal book The Interpretation of Dreams, you can get a small taste for Freudian philosophy. Freud believed that dreams were a reflection of the subconscious mind and that studying a person’s dreams can elucidate their inner wants and needs. What are your dreams telling you?  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

20 Helmi 20241h 4min

CIA Director, Defense Secretary, Gentleman with Leon Panetta

CIA Director, Defense Secretary, Gentleman with Leon Panetta

Summary Leon Panetta (Panetta Institute) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss his lifetime of American public service. Secretary Panetta was the 2023 recipient of SPY’s William H. Webster Award.  What You’ll Learn Intelligence Directing the Central Intelligence Agency Intelligence & the Abbottabad Raid Working within the Clinton Administration  A life’s dedication to the safety of the American public Reflections The power of patience and the ability to listen Handing immense pressure and responsibility And much, much more … Resources  SURFACE SKIM *SpyCasts* My Life in American Intelligence with Barry Zulauf (2023) David Petraeus on Ukraine & Intelligence with the former CIA Director & 4* General (2023) Intelligence, Special Operations, and Strategy with Michael Vickers (2023) The 75th Anniversary of the CIA with former Director Robert Gates (2022) *Beginner Resources* What Does the Secretary of Defense Do? MasterClass (2022) [Short article] How did the US find and kill Osama bin Laden? 60 Minutes Australia, YouTube (2018) [4 min. video] Leon E. Panetta, Panetta Institute for Public Policy (n.d.) [Short biography] DEEPER DIVE Books The Spymasters: How the CIA Directors Shape History and the Future, C. Whipple (Scribner, 2021) The Gatekeepers: How the White House Chiefs of Staff Define Every Presidency, C. Whipple (Crown, 2018)  Worthy Fights: A Memoir of Leadership in War and Peace, L. Panetta & J. Newton (Penguin Books, 2014) SECDEF: The Nearly Impossible Job of Secretary of Defense, C. A. Stevenson (Potomac Books, 2007)  Primary Sources  Statement on Syria before the Senate Armed Services Committee (2012) Nomination of Hon. Leon E. Panetta to be Secretary of Defense (2011)  Statement to Employees by CIA Director Leon Panetta on the Death of Usama Bin Ladin (2011)  Nomination of Leon Panetta to be Director, Central Intelligence Agency (2009) Memorandum for Leon Panetta on POTUS’ Time Investment (1996) Letter from Brown to Panetta Regarding Fiscal Year 1994-1997 (1993) Letter to the Honorable Leon E. Panetta from George Bush (1977) *Wildcard Resource* Secretary Panetta now lives on a lovely vineyard in sunny California. Speaking of wine and spies, check out Vint Hill Winery in Warrenton, Virginia.  In 1942 the US Army set up top-secret SIGINT operations at the now-vineyard after the farm’s owner, a Ham Radio enthusiast, set up a wire on the roof of the barn that could reach signals from Berlin. The farm was the site of The Signal Corps cryptographic school, which famously intercepted messages from Hiroshi Oshima in 1943.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

13 Helmi 20241h 10min

“The British Monarchy and Secret Intelligence” with Rory Cormac and Richard Aldrich

“The British Monarchy and Secret Intelligence” with Rory Cormac and Richard Aldrich

Summary Rory Cormac (X) and Richard Aldrich join Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss intelligence and the British Monarchy. The links between the royals and espionage prove the Crown to be far more than just a figurehead.   What You’ll Learn Intelligence Prince William’s internship with British Intelligence How Elizabeth II knew perhaps more secrets that anyone else in history King Charles' love of intelligence   Queen Victoria as Spymaster MI5, MI6, and the Diana conspiracies Reflections Secrets within secrets  Power and knowledge And much, much more … Quotes of the Week  ”What struck me the most was how much access Queen Elizabeth II had, how much she knew … And I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that she probably knew more state secrets than any human being who has ever walked the history of the earth, because she had access to everything for 70 odd years.” – Rory Cormac  Resources  SURFACE SKIM *Spotlight Resource* Crown, Cloak, and Dagger: The British Monarchy and Secret Intelligence from Victoria to Elizabeth II, R. Cormac & R. J. Aldrich (Georgetown University Press, 2023)  *SpyCasts* Rise of Devils: The Origins of Modern Terrorism with James Crossland (2024) British Defence Attaché, U.S.A. with Rear Admiral Tim Woods (2023) St. Ermin’s Hotel, London: The History of a Legendary Spy Site with Stephen Duffy (2023)  Espionage and the Two Queens with Kent Tiernan (2023) *Beginner Resources* UK Royal Family: What does the King do? Jennifer Clarke, BBC (2024) [Short article] An Average Day in the Life of Queen Elizabeth II, The Infographics Show, YouTube (2020) [9 min. video] Kings and Queens of England & Britain, Ben Johnson, Historic UK (n.d.) [Brief bios of all Monarchs] DEEPER DIVE Primary Sources  Operation Paget Report (2006) CIA Confirms Official Met With LaRouche (1984) Anthony Blunt, 75, Dies; Was Soviet Spy in Britain (1983) More Cloak Than Dagger – An 18th Century Spy (1965) The Queen Delivering her speech to the House of Lords (1838) Popay the Spy Political Cartoon (1833)  *Wildcard Resource* Have a sweet tooth? So did many queens. Several delectable desserts have been named by or for British royals. Try these recipes:  Victoria Sponge, named for Queen Victoria’s favorite afternoon tea accompaniment Charlotte Cake, supposedly named after Queen Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz Queen Elizabeth Cake, first published in the 1953 Coronation Cook Book and served at Elizabeth II’s coronation  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

6 Helmi 20241h 3min

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