The $10m mind-reader who spooked Joe Rogan and Barack Obama  - The Saturday Story
The Story29 Nov 2025

The $10m mind-reader who spooked Joe Rogan and Barack Obama - The Saturday Story

Oz Pearlman has guessed Joe Rogan's pin number, freaked out Barack Obama, mind-read Howard Stern’s secret afterlife password and left Richard Branson staring into the middle distance. But behind the viral moments is a former Wall Street analyst who insists there’s nothing supernatural in what he does, just psychology, pattern-spotting and a lifetime spent decoding how people think. We dive into the real tricks of the world’s most in-demand "mentalist", the habits that power his $10m career, and why he says you can learn them too.


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Written by: Michael Odell, interviewer and features writer.

Read by: Micaela Arneson and Edward Drummond.

Producer: Dave Creasey.

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Clips: The Joe Rogan Experience, SiriusXM, AGT, TedX, GMA.

Photo: Getty Images.

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