We Want It To Come From Us
What Came After1 Des 2025

We Want It To Come From Us

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This past July, What Came After sat down with Kelly Shapiro, an engineering student at Rutgers University who founded the club Students Stand With Israel in the aftermath of October 7th. Kelly discusses her path into student government as antizionism and antisemitism surged on campus, and she reflects on the fear many Jewish students feel about speaking up—often out of concern that they lack an encyclopedic grasp of the conflict. She also shares her own experiences with intimidation since becoming the public face of her organization.

In our conversation, Kelly talks about both the burdens and the pride that come with taking on this work as a college student. She also describes how genuine dialogue—not protests or slogans—has helped foster unexpected moments of mutual understanding between her and some peers who identify as anti-Israel.

Credits:

Host and Creator: Manya Marcus

Managing Producer: Eli Akselrod

Editor and Producer: Ben Wallick

Editor 2: Eli Akselrod

Editor: Molly Glicksman

Logo Design: Samuel Vilemar

Outro Music: “Light” - Ilana Chava

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Your Students Carried Us

Your Students Carried Us

Please Support What Came After Media: Donate here. Your donations make this work possible. For months, Yoni Heilman and I kept missing each other. When I was in Israel, Yoni was serving in reserve du...

11 Aug 52min

Cancer Doesn’t Stop—Even In A War

Cancer Doesn’t Stop—Even In A War

Please Support What Came After Media: Donate here. Your donations make this work possible. On March 18th of this year, I'd been back in America for a few days after getting stuck in Israel during the...

3 Aug 53min

This Project Is A Gift

This Project Is A Gift

Please Support What Came After Media: Donate here. Your donations make this work possible. When I first met with our guest, Dekkel Bachar, at the end of 2025, we talked about Shesek, an initiative of ...

21 Jul 32min

You Need To Trust Both Love And Evil

You Need To Trust Both Love And Evil

Please Support What Came After Media: Donate here. Your donations make this work possible. In March, I was in Israel when war broke out with the Iranian regime. Since I couldn't leave the country, I w...

7 Jul 51min

The Ink Hotel: Hezzy, Dima, and Ira

The Ink Hotel: Hezzy, Dima, and Ira

Please Support What Came After Media: Donate here. Your donations make this work possible. This is my first time back in Israel since the war with the Iranian regime. Things feel different now — and ...

30 Jun 34min

The Pool Is Our Heart

The Pool Is Our Heart

Please Support What Came After Media: Donate here. Your donations make this work possible. Last November, I spent nearly ten hours at Einot Bar, otherwise known as Ripples of Healing, which many of y...

22 Jun 37min

I Couldn’t Lose Myself

I Couldn’t Lose Myself

Please Support What Came After Media: Donate here. Your donations make this work possible. I sat down with Samantha Robinson in Jerusalem in February 2026 — weeks before any of us knew that a second w...

17 Jun 50min

You Know Why, And You Continue

You Know Why, And You Continue

Please Support What Came After Media: Donate here. Your donations make this work possible. In November 2025, I sat down with Israeli military photographer Oren Cohen in Jerusalem. Oren's book, 06:29 —...

8 Jun 33min

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