194. Roch Theriault and Ant Hill Kids Cult

194. Roch Theriault and Ant Hill Kids Cult

*****CONTENT WARNING*****In 1984, the beautiful, tranquil area of Burnt River in Ontario, Canada, attracted the attention of the free-spirited, organic-food-growing faith community called the Ant Hill Kids. Along an isolated road on August 16th, 1989, it was here that a member of that faith community hitch-hiked her way to a hospital, protecting the stump that used to be her right arm. A former nurse herself, Gabrielle Lavallee knew only too well the horrors that could befall an untreated amputation. But any horror that could result from rampant infection was mild compared to the horror she’d already endured.Gabrielle, determined to leave the "utopian" community behind, eventually spilled her story to the police. Gabrielle had existed in conditions far from utopian. She had been living in an absolute sadistic hellscape, controlled and manipulated by the Ant Hill Kids leader, a Quebec man named Roch Theriault. Join Jen and Cam as we discuss a case that is so heinous and bizarre that if it were a work of fiction, the author would be taken to task for making up such an unbelievable story.If you or any loved ones need help with either leaving a cult or are in need of therapy to recover from your experiences, you can visit the International Cultic Studies Association’s website at https://www.icsahome.com/supportPromo by Tales From the Darkside. Be sure to check out Season 5Thank you to Edward October for the Listener Discretion. Check out his YouTube ChannelNico at We Talk of Dreams for editing and theme.Lauretta Allen for research and writingSources:https://www.newspapers.com/image/466768310/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/743679526/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/50184105/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/730036276/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/743686544/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/503365026/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/503737823/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/423673939/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/733562728/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/503747306/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/423672635/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/735333684/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/503992547/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roch_Th%C3%A9riaulthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NOobUNHNVchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1vnaYiNH-ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wBXOkcvhDg&t=889shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cw8Xeb3zFYhttps://morbidology.com/the-ant-hill-kids/https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/canadian-messiah-formed-doomsday-cult-ulcer-problems-article-1.3797931https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/murder/roch-theriault-the-horrifying-savagery-home-surgery-of-canadas-most-violent-cult-leaderhttps://www.namnab.com/post/the-canadian-cult-you-ve-never-heard-of-the-ant-hill-kidshttps://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/chilling-insight-doomsday-cult-members-13995059https://archive.macleans.ca/article/1983/1/10/the-reactionary-face-of-catholicism Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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110. The Pig Farmer: Robert Pickton

110. The Pig Farmer: Robert Pickton

Before you listen to this particular episode, I wanted to mention that the perpetrator in the case targeted sex workers many of whom were indigenous women struggling with addiction and/or mental health issues. According to www.statista.com, in 2018, the rate of homicide victims among women in Canada was more than six times higher for the indigenous population. Often, victims of violent crimes, Indigenous people are twice as likely to suffer a physical assault, and three times as likely to become victims of robbery and sexual assault compared to their non-indigenous counterparts.  If you would like to find out more about Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls, please visit.amnesty.ca or kairoscandada.org. Robert William Pickton was a Canadian farmer who, along with his brother, would run the farming business after his parents passed away. The men had some success with the farming but Robert's greatest legacy had nothing to do with farming. This is a grotesque story about a man who would ultimately be responsible for a series of missing women and the horror they must have endured.Join Jen and Cam as we discuss 'The Pig Farmer: Robert Pickton' on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast. Giant Thank YOU to Ryan @JonesAndJonesy for this listener submission. Listener discretion is always voiced by the incredible Edward October from @octoberpodVHSThe show's music and executive producer is the fabu Nico @wetalkof dreams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

6 Feb 202140min

109. Honor Thy Father or Die: Eddie Sexton

109. Honor Thy Father or Die: Eddie Sexton

Eddie Sexton was an ordained minister so all those in town knew him and he was the go-to guy who could marry you and fast with little fuss. Eddie and his wife, Estella May had 12 children in all, seven boys and five girls. From the outside, this large church-going family seemed to be an ideal family but we all know looks can be deceiving and in this case, twisted and deadly. This is a story about a father who ruled with an iron fist by instilling fear, among other things, to get exactly what he wanted. After all, he always got what he wanted because if he didn't there would be hell to pay. Join Jen and Cam as we discuss "Honor Thy Father or Die: Eddie Sexton" on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast.Promo is by our friend Stu @britishmurdersListener discretion by the affable Edward October from @octoberpodVHSAll music is by our executive producer Nico @wetalkofdreams -he's the bestSources: http://users.zoominternet.net/~dknox/paladinreports/sexton1.htmhttps://prodeathpenalty.com/case/sextons-familyhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt4975082/https://apnews.com/article/e9efa9c6bbbe40d9deb3371982cebbffhttps://www.loganbanner.com/features/dwight-williamson-a-notorious-family-with-logan-county-ties/article_bdb512ac-d3c2-5980-a2d0-29d4bd87c95d.htmlhttps://law.fsu.eduhttps://caselaw.findlaw.com/fl-supreme-court/1000203.htmlhttps://www.tampabay.com/archive/1994/02/26/sexton-family-horrors-recalled/https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1994-02-20-9402200530-story.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Lee_Sexton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

27 Jan 202158min

108. Albert Fentress: New York's Own Hannibal Lector

108. Albert Fentress: New York's Own Hannibal Lector

On August 20th, 1979 civil lawyer Wallace Schwartz gets a phone call at 2:12 AM When he answers he hears his friend, 38-year-old Albert Fentress, in a low emotionless tone, say he is going to kill himself because he did something awful, something unthinkable. The story that Albert would tell his friend Wallace would be a tale of cannibalization, mutilation, and murder involving a teenager. The man who committed this heinous crime would become the darling of prison officials but the question remains: Did Albert lose touch with reality that summer afternoon or did Albert know exactly what he did and how to get away with it? Join Cam and Jen on this episode as we discuss Albert Fentress: New York's Own Hannibal Lector.Edward from OctoberpodVHS does our amazing listener discretion. Make sure to listen to his original work at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZQk-oAsjZNG18y8bX24c6wNico Vetesse is our Producer he composed our theme music. Check him out, he's brilliant.https://wetalkofdreams.com/This is the paper written by Judge Rosenblatt Jen was talking ofhttps://www.leagle.com/decision/1980282103misc2d1791253Also, the fiction book written by a former student. It is NOT about Fentress. Jen https://www.amazon.com/Midnight-Call-Jode-Millman/dp/1732467498/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=sources:https://www.newspapers.com/clip/33196905/teacher-held-in-teen-agers-shooting/https://www.newspapers.com/clip/33197189/sources-say-murder-victim-shot-twice/https://www.newspapers.com/image/114187600/?terms=albert%20fentress&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/114932051/?terms=albert%20fentress&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/114421591/?terms=albert%20fentress&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/114625860/?terms=albert%20fentress&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/114771743/?terms=albert%20fentress%20gun&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/145121001/?terms=albert%20fentress&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/115044274/?terms=albert%20fentress&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/115044274/?terms=albert%20fentress&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/114736509/?terms=albert%20fentress&match=1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

20 Jan 202143min

107. The Pretender: Kenny Wayne Lockwood

107. The Pretender: Kenny Wayne Lockwood

We are venturing to the college town of College Station, Texas home of Texas A&M.They like simple things like studying, partying and football. They also like getting to meet new people who share similar interests, especially if that interest is Aggie Football. Kerry Kujawa is a 20-year-old engineering major at the university and just like a lot of other students, he has a 21-year-old girlfriend name, Kelly McCauley. They were just like any other college student couple: cute, carefree, and working hard to get grades and graduate while having a little fun in between. They were, however, unlike most couples in one aspect: the two had never actually met. They haven’t even talked on the phone. They had only communicated in the chat room. Kerry had asked over and over to meet up with Kelly but the timing just didn’t seem to work out. It seems Kelly was not being completely honest with Kerry. What could have been a deceitful lie turned into murder. Join Jen and Cam as we discuss The Pretender: Kenny Wayne Lockwood on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast.Today’s promo is by our friend at @PodcastRiddleOur listener discretion is by the incredible Edward October from @octoberpodVHS.Our music, as well as our executive producer, is the remarkable Nico @wetalkofdreams.Sources:https://texags.com/forums/12/topics/250410https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cyberdating-site-unseen/https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/news-of-the-weird/Content?oid=904400https://www.irishtimes.com/news/when-the-net-closes-in-1.282385https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4012856/https://www.upi.com/Archives/2000/04/28/Murder-suspect-allegedly-used-Internet/4685956894400/https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/30641997.pdfhttps://www.bailbondshq.com/texas/hays-inmate-Lockwood/20001540https://www.publicpolicerecord.com/texas/sanmarcos-jail/Lockwood_Kenny/20001540 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

13 Jan 202141min

The St Louis Video Strangler: Maury Travis Day 12 Nightmare Before Christmas

The St Louis Video Strangler: Maury Travis Day 12 Nightmare Before Christmas

Well, it the very final episode of 2020 and day 12 of our Nightmare Before Christmas series. So far we have traveled back in time and to other countries, like the UK, Australia, and Japan. In this last episode, we are going into our own backyard. A St. Louis Post-Dispatch reporter opens an anonymous letter sent to him from someone praising him for a recent story he wrote about a murdered sex worker. However, this was not the normal fan mail as it included a map with an ‘X’ pointing to where the next dead sex worker would be found dead. Authorities go to the site in West Alton unsure of what they would find. Sadly, ‘X’ did mark the spot but this was just the beginning of a sadistic serial killer who wouldn’t stop until he made a mistake on his home computer.****edit*** A man by the name of Donald Younge Jr was charged with the murders of 3 of the women found in East St Louis in garbage bags. There names are Seriece Johnson, 33; Ramona Sidney, 31, and Tracy Williams, 38. Younge was stabbed and killed in prison before he could be tried. Jen and Cam would like to thank our very own wise men: Edward October from @octoberpodVHS who does our listener discretion and Nico @wetalkofdreams who does our music and produces us. Love to you both for helping us put another year in the books.Sources:https://www.newspapers.com/image/141225425/https://www.newspapers.com/image/141225498/https://www.newspapers.com/image/142073343/?terms=maury%20travis%20video%20tapes&match=1https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/from-the-archives-st-louis-serial-killer-victims-were-less-than-human-to-him-police/article_6d10868c-b3ef-5e32-81ab-bd450eb85268.amp.htmlhttps://abcnews.go.com/US/woman-found-serial-killer-lived-home-watching-tv/story?id=24467447https://www.vice.com/en/article/znwq79/this-lady-signed-a-lease-she-found-out-she-was-stuck-in-a-murder-house-709https://news.stlpublicradio.org/government-politics-issues/2019-04-26/was-a-serial-killer-responsible-for-the-murder-of-six-women-in-east-st-louis-this-expert-thinks-sohttps://www.newspapers.com/image/142839867/https://www.newspapers.com/image/142825821/?terms=mary%20shields&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/142825907/https://www.newspapers.com/image/142858026/?terms=teresa%20wilson&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/142858029https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1095694/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

24 Des 20201h

On the Death Ward: Genene Jones Day 11 Nightmare Before Christmas

On the Death Ward: Genene Jones Day 11 Nightmare Before Christmas

Health care workers are angels walking on this earth. In the last nine months, these angels have been pulling double duty saving the lives of our loved ones and caring for them when they are sick all while trying to take care of themselves. They often hold life and death in their hands and work so hard to save lives. That is what they do...most of them ...but not all. In 1992, there was a nurse in Texas who would prey on the helpless and most innocent of all: babies. Join Jen and Cam on Day 11 of the 12 Nightmares Before Christmas as we discuss ‘On the Death Ward: Genene Jones.’Our holiday listener discretion is by the very ornamental @octoberpodVHS. Edward is the present we never knew we needed. All of our music is by the never naughty Nico @wetalkofdreams. This awesome little bell is also our executive producer. Jen and Cam wish you a very merry holiday season. Love ya, Cam and JenSources:https://www.propublica.org/article/texas-baby-killer-pleads-guilty-to-a-new-murderhttps://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/the-death-shift-2/https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Child-killer-Genene-Jones-is-expected-to-take-a-14977763.phphttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/24/Genene-serial-baby-killer-early-release_n_828023.htmlhttp://www.thecrimemag.com/explaining-wicked-phenomenon-angels-death/http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/26/us/texas-nurse-baby-death-indictment/index.htmlhttps://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Killer-nurse-Genene-Jones-sentenced-to-life-14980862.phphttps://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/01/17/texas-killer-nurse-genene-jones-guilty-infant-death/4499258002/https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/05/26/angel-of-death-nurse-charged-with-killing-another-baby-suspected-in-up-to-60-other-slayings/https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/23/us/texas-nurse-children.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

23 Des 202048min

Hope Forest Murders: Clifford Bartholomew Day 10 Nightmares Before Christmas

Hope Forest Murders: Clifford Bartholomew Day 10 Nightmares Before Christmas

On the 10th day of the 12 Nightmare Before Christmas series, Cam and Jen talk about Clifford Bartholomew.Clifford Bartholomew lived until the ripe old age of 72 and had lived a wonderful life with his wife of twenty-two years and his seven adopted children. When the beloved father and grandfather died, the family knew they would miss him terribly and things would never be the same. What they did not yet know, was the man they loved had a secret and that secret was that he was responsible for one of the worst incidences of a mass family killing in Australia.Sources:A huge Thank You to Alan Sharpe. His book was used as my top research for this episodeCrime and Punishment; 50 Crimes that Shocked Australia by Alan Sharpehttps://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=13991047612&searchurl=an%3Dalan%2Bsharpe%26sortby%3D17%26tn%3Dcrime%2Bpunishment%2Bcrimes%2Bshocked&cm_sp=snippet-_-srp1-_-title1https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5775957/The-secret-life-one-Australias-worst-mass-murderers.htmlhttps://www.thatslife.com.au/cliff-palmer-family-secrethttps://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=336&dat=19710907&id=srVSAAAAIBAJ&sjid=fH8DAAAAIBAJ&pg=5789,1358515&hl=dehttps://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=799&dat=19710904&id=eJdhAAAAIBAJ&sjid=WFIDAAAAIBAJ&pg=945,4083367https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=bvdjAAAAIBAJ&sjid=-eQDAAAAIBAJ&dq=bartholomew%20killed&hl=de&pg=2879%2C8642186https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=G8NUAAAAIBAJ&sjid=u5ADAAAAIBAJ&pg=6660%2C1444966https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5775957/The-secret-life-one-Australias-worst-mass-murderers.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

22 Des 202035min

The Twitter Killer: Takahiro Shiraishi Day 9 Nightmares Before Christmas

The Twitter Killer: Takahiro Shiraishi Day 9 Nightmares Before Christmas

Day Nine and we are taking a plane flight to Zama City, Japan which is a suburb of Toyko and also home to the United States' Camp Zama Army base. The story begins with two investigators from the Metropolitan Police Department's Personal Safety-related Case Comprehensive Countermeasures Headquarters and Takao Station. This unit, which usuallt dealt with stalking, had a much different case on this day in October of 2017. A report had been made about a missing woman who was supposed to met a man she had been speaking to on Twitter and had not been seen since departing to meet him. Police approach the apartment, and, after a knock on the door, a young man answered. When asked if he knew where the missing woman may be, he replied that he did not know. An astute investigator looked beyond the man and noticed a woman’s purse in his apartment. The investigators didn’t have to pressure him for long about the whereabouts of the missing 23 year old. Minutes later he calmly pointed to a freezer and simply said, ‘in there.” What the investigators could not yet know what just how many bodies they would soon discover. Join Jen and Cam on day 9 of Our True Crime Podcast’s the 12 Nightmares Before Christmas as we discuss ‘Twitter Killer: Takahiro Shiraishi.’That snappy holiday jingle that warns you not to listen if you have a weak heart, that is our very own reindeer Edward October from @octoberpodVHS.All music is from St. Nico of @wetalkofdreams. He is such a saint to deal with us, we made him our executive producer too. Sources: https://www.npr.org/2020/12/15/946625736/japans-twitter-killer-sentenced-to-death-in-killing-of-9https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/15/japans-twitter-killer-sentenced-to-deathhttps://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/10/30/national/crime-legal/zama-mass-murder-suspect-says-interviews-nine-victims-objects-desire/https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/10/30/national/crime-legal/zama-mass-murder-suspect-says-interviews-nine-victims-objects-desire/https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/inside-the-mind-of-a-serial-killerhttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54366806https://www.sankei.com/affairs/news/181028/afr1810280015-n1.htmlhttps://www.sbs.com.au/news/how-japan-s-suspected-serial-killer-went-from-quiet-child-to-sex-trade-scouthttps://www.firstpost.com/world/japans-takahiro-shiraishi-dubbed-twitter-killer-sentenced-to-death-for-dismembering-nine-people-9113991.htmlhttps://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/world/asia/japan-serial-killer-takahiro-shiraishi.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

21 Des 202035min

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