Computer Says Maybe26 Des 2025

How to (Actually) Keep Kids Safe Online w/ Kate Sim (replay)

A replay of our conversation with Kate Sim, on the state of child safety online.

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We’re replaying five deep conversations over the Christmas period for you to listen to on your travels and downtime — please enjoy!

Child safety is a fuzzy catch-all concept for our broader social anxieties that seems to be everywhere in our conversations about the internet. But child safety isn’t a new concept, and the way our politics focuses on the spectacle isn’t new either.

To help us unpack this is Kate Sim, who has over a decade of experience in sexual violence prevention and response and is currently the Director of the Children’s Online Safety and Privacy Research (COSPR) program at the University of Western Australia’s Tech & Policy Lab. We discuss the growth of ‘child safety’ regulation around the world, and how it often conflates multiple topics: age-gating adult content, explicit attempts to harm children, national security, and even ‘family values’.

Further reading & resources:

On COSPRs forthcoming paper on the CSAM detection ecosystem. Here is a fact sheet with ecosystem map based on it: https://bit.ly/cospr-collateral
On CSAM bottleneck problem: https://doi.org/10.25740/pr592kc5483
IBCK episode on the Anxious Generation: https://pod.link/1651876897/episode/47a8aa95c83be96b044dcb3f4e43d158
Child psychology expert Candace Odgers debunking Jonathan Haidt’s claims in real-time here: https://tyde.virginia.edu/event/haidt-odgers/)
A primer on client-side scanning and CSAM from Mitali Thakor: https://mit-serc.pubpub.org/pub/701yvdbh/release/2
On effective CSA prevention and scalability: https://www.prevention.global/resources/read-full-scalability-report

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