The Fitz & Franson Show28 Okt 2025

You Can’t Outwork Chaos | Emotional Intelligence for Real Leaders

In this episode, Fitz and Franson break down emotional intelligence in leadership for business owners, sales leaders, and anyone managing people in high-stress environments. From the “Fantasy Football Syndrome” that makes us fake-listen, to why slowing down is the real leadership superpower, this conversation gets raw, funny, and practical.

They dig into how to:
✅ Coach your people beyond checklists and scorecards
✅ Build trust by listening to understand, not to reply
✅ Recognize your own bias before you lead others
✅ Handle chaos without burning out
✅ Ask better questions that create ownership and buy-in

It’s a no-fluff, real-talk episode about awareness, humility, and the kind of emotional intelligence at work that actually drives results in real businesses, not just in a book.

💬 What’s one time you realized “you can’t outwork chaos”? Drop it in the comments, we might feature your story in a future episode.

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🔖 Chapters:
00:00 – Intro: Emotional Intelligence in Leadership
00:40 – “Fantasy Football Syndrome”: why leaders fake-listen
03:10 – Slowing down is the leadership superpower
06:00 – Coaching beyond X’s & O’s: building awareness in teams
08:20 – Follow-ups & routines: keeping momentum after great talks
11:30 – You can’t outwork chaos: process vs. people
14:00 – Cognitive bias & self-awareness in leadership
17:30 – The “curse of knowledge”: expecting others to think like you
21:00 – Reflective listening: ask better fol

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📩 Connect with us:
info@powrful.com

💼 Want to work with us or sponsor the show?
Email: jay@powrful.com

🚀 Want to work with Matt to scale your business?
See how he helped grow a $4M company to $20M → https://powrful.com/the-powrful-method-582640

Matt's email: matt@powrful.com

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