DO 298 - The Wool Empire, Faith, and Local Business

DO 298 - The Wool Empire, Faith, and Local Business

Jason is joined by Greg Cello to discuss his plan to build a regional wool industry in New England, starting with sheep on his Rhode Island homestead. This isn't just about producing sweaters; Greg sees sheep farming as a way to revive the cooperative spirit that once defined rural communities, where families worked together and traded their goods through local granges.

The conversation touches on how Greg went from military officer to homesteader, why he pulled his kids out of school and daycare to raise them at home, and how his Catholic faith became central to everything he does. He talks about the difference between environmentalism and true conservationism, his daily podcast where he works through ideas in real time, and the Globalism Slayer account he created to highlight small American family businesses as a counterweight to globalism.

Greg is candid about the challenges of building roots in an expensive real estate market, the tension between using modern platforms like X and Substack to promote a vision of local self-sufficiency, and what it would actually look like to create generational stability for his family and community. The episode explores subsidiarity, discipline, dissidence, and what moves people to reject the default modern life and try something harder but more meaningful.

You can find Greg at Kinward on Substack and

@dissidntdad on X

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DO 302 - Starting a Farm and a Farm Store on Main Street

DO 302 - Starting a Farm and a Farm Store on Main Street

Geoffrey Long of Long Story Farms joins Jason to talk about what it actually takes to build a working farmstead part-time, the real challenges of scaling production and finding local markets, and why ...

10 Mar 1h 6min

DO 301 - Open Source Civilization: Marcin Jakubowski of Open Source Ecology

DO 301 - Open Source Civilization: Marcin Jakubowski of Open Source Ecology

When Your Tractor Breaks, Open Source the Whole CivilizationMarcin Jakubowski, founder of Open Source Ecology, joins Ashley to talk about his 20-year project to open source the blueprints for civiliza...

4 Mar 1h 14min

DO 300 - Celebrating 300 Episodes of Doomer Optimism

DO 300 - Celebrating 300 Episodes of Doomer Optimism

Three hundred episodes in, and we’re still here, still questioning, still laughing, still building.In this special 300th episode, we gather voices from across DO; past guests, hosts, collaborators, an...

25 Feb 1h 18min

DO 299 - Small Scale Production, Henry George, and the Land Value Tax

DO 299 - Small Scale Production, Henry George, and the Land Value Tax

Willy Denner of Little Seed Gardens in Chatham, NY, joins Jason and returning co-host Nigel Best for a wide-ranging conversation about 32 years of small-scale organic farming, the economics of direct ...

17 Feb 1h 46min

DO 297: Mulberries in the Rain: Permaculture, Crisis, and Building Food Systems for the Future

DO 297: Mulberries in the Rain: Permaculture, Crisis, and Building Food Systems for the Future

How patient design and ideological diversity are reshaping food productionAshley sits down with Ryan Blosser and Trevor Piersol, co-founders of Shenandoah Permaculture Institute and authors of Mulberr...

3 Feb 1h 11min

DO 296: Building Community in Fragmented Times

DO 296: Building Community in Fragmented Times

Ashley Fitzgerald sits down with Elizabeth Oldfield to explore how we can foster genuine connection across ideological and cultural divides and why it matters more than ever.Drawing on Elizabeth’s exp...

20 Jan 1h 5min

DO 295 - Navigating the Evolution of Meat Production with Greg Gunthorp & Nate

DO 295 - Navigating the Evolution of Meat Production with Greg Gunthorp & Nate

Surviving Consolidation, One Pig at a TimeGreg Gunthorp, a fourth-generation Indiana hog farmer, joins Nate for a wide-ranging conversation about survival, stubbornness, and adaptation in the American...

13 Jan 1h 40min

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