The Retail Rumble (Part 2) with Ken Pilot, Steve Dennis, Lauren Livak Gilbert & Sarah Engel

The Retail Rumble (Part 2) with Ken Pilot, Steve Dennis, Lauren Livak Gilbert & Sarah Engel

Steve and Michael open earnings season for March-ending retailers with a tour of luxury's stumble. LVMH posted just 1% organic growth, with fashion and leather — including Louis Vuitton — remaining soft. Kering continues its turnaround "with more promise than proof" under new CEO Luca de Meo. Even Hermès saw growth slow and its stock fall. The common thread: the Middle East, where mall traffic has reportedly dropped 30–50% at locations like Mall of the Emirates. Albertsons' 0.7% comp reinforces the "unremarkable middle" thesis. Meanwhile, Amazon's Andy Jassy confirmed in his shareholder letter that Amazon has surpassed Kroger to become America's #2 grocer — a milestone that largely slipped past the headlines.

March core retail sales came in hot at 7.05%, with apparel, health & beauty, and sporting goods posting low-double-digit gains — likely fueled by tax refunds and the ongoing GLP-1 wardrobe refresh. On tariffs, refunds appear to be coming. Even so, the Treasury is already signaling new tariffs to replace those ruled illegal.

The centerpiece of the episode is Retail Rumble Part 2, recorded live on the ShopTalk Las Vegas stage. In Round 1, Steve faces off against Ken Pilot, Founder and CEO of Ken Pilot Ventures, on whether department stores can be resurrected. Ken argues format and geography still matter — pointing to thriving concepts in Dubai, Beijing's SKP, and El Corte Inglés — and jabs at Steve's alleged American-centric view. Steve fires back with the numbers: department stores' share of U.S. retail has collapsed from 10% to 1.8%, with poor momentum and store closings running rampant.

Round 2 pits Lauren Livak Gilbert against Sarah Enge, on whether AI is a threat or opportunity for your job. Lauren leans into Goldman Sachs' 300-million-jobs figure and the hollowing out of analyst roles. Sarah counters that AI effectively returns a full workday to marketers and frees humans for storytelling and connection.

In the back half, Steve revisits Allbirds' bizarre reinvention as NewBird.ai — a GPU-as-a-service AI compute platform that sent the stock up 700% before it cratered. The duo also unpacks Starbucks' strategy under Brian Niccol, now being called the "couchification of Starbucks" — leaning into comfort and dwell time over throughput.

On the radar: Steve flags global travel disruption tied to the Iran conflict, including warnings of a potential European jet fuel shortage within six weeks. Michael highlights New York State's new cash-acceptance law for retailers and softer-than-expected World Cup ticket sales.

About Us

Steve Dennis is a strategic advisor and keynote speaker focused on growth and innovation, who has also been named one of the world's top retail influencers. He is the bestselling author of two books: Leaders Leap: Transforming Your Company at the Speed of Disruption and Remarkable Retail: How To Win & Keep Customers in the Age of Disruption. Steve regularly shares his insights in his role as a Forbes senior retail contributor and on social media.


Michael LeBlanc is a senior retail advisor, keynote speaker and media entrepreneur. Michael has delivered keynotes, hosted fire-side discussions hosted senior retail executive on-stage in 1:1 interviews worldwide. Michael produces and hosts a network of leading retail trade podcasts, including The Remarkable Retail Podcast, The Voice of Retail, The Food Professor, The FEED powered by Loblaw and the Global eCommerce Leaders podcast. He has been recognized by the NRF as a global Top Retail Voice for 2025 and 2026 and continues to be a ReThink Retail Top Retail Expert for the fifth year in a row.

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