The Rise of Christian Nationalism with CNN’s Chief Investigative Reporter Pamela Brown

What is Christian nationalism and why is it becoming such a central part of the political conversation?

In this episode, we're joined by CNN’s Chief Investigative Reporter reporter Pamela Brown to discuss her documentary on the rise of Christian nationalism and the viral interview that sparked widespread debate. Pamela explains how she defines the movement, why she believes it’s gaining political traction, and how it connects to conversations around education, policy, and political power.

We also talk about navigating misinformation in the age of AI, how motherhood has shaped her perspective as a journalist, and the realities of balancing reporting with raising three kids — from childcare costs and parental leave to maternal mental health. What role does the media play in a polarized moment, and how should families make sense of the information coming at them from all sides?

We discuss:

(0:00) – Intro / Teaser

(0:10) – Welcome & Host Check-in (Sarah's son's ER visit, Easter hosting)

(5:13) – Trump's Easter Tweet & Iran Nuclear Threats

(9:34) – Pop Culture: The Bachelorette / Mara Higgins

(11:48) – Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni Case Update

(13:23) – Barbie Dreamhouse Conference (Fyre Fest of conferences)

(14:45) – Trump on Daycare & Federal Programs (reaction)

(17:58) – Isabelle Brown Clip: "Have More Kids"

(22:34) – RFK Launching a Podcast

(23:12) – Trump's Executive Order to Limit Mail-In Voting

(29:21) – Pam Bondi Fired

(31:17) – Kristi Noem's Husband's Double Life

(35:16) – Guest Intro: Pamela Brown, CNN

(37:53) – Interview with Pam Brown Begins

(51:34) – Christian Nationalism Deep Dive

(1:11:16) – DGAF 2026 Segment

(1:18:58) – Outro

Learn more about:

Tanya Nathan is a political campaign and communications strategist with over a decade of experience in progressive campaigns and advocacy. Currently a Principal at a nationally-based grasstops consulting firm, she's a Denver native living with her year old daughter, husband, and their rescue pets. Her hobbies include crosswords, mezcal tasting, and trying to find people to talk to about Traitors.

Sarah Andrews is a political strategist living in rural Colorado with her husband and two young kids. When she's not managing campaigns or chasing toddlers, she's passionate about women's rights, childcare policy, and creating space for honest political conversations that don't end in shouting matches.

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