Hello Universe18 Mar 2020

The Healing Power of Meditation with Kathy Frankel

At the top of the show, Kyley and Eva discuss:

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Kyley process her feelings about grief in motherhood, the impermanence of nature, and her daughter turning one
The importance and power of accepting grief and feeling your feelings

Kathy Frankel is a long time meditator. In this episode we have a grounded and meaningful discussion on how meditation has transformed Kathy’s life:

Spirituality as determining the kindest, clearest, most ethical course of action
Kathy’s origin story— finding meditation on retreat and the transformational power of that experience
Experiencing for yourself as a source of truth
The awareness and healing power of finally seeing the patterns of our own mind, or monkey mind, as uncomfortable as that may be
When the student is ready, the teacher arises — doing the internal work making us ready for the teacher or resource we need
Depression as a numbing, a not-feeling, and how meditation helped Kathy when other means did not
Kathy’s commitment to activism and protest work, and how meditation keeps her grounded when things feel upside down

“For one thing, I don’t feel depressed anymore, because I realized that for me, depression was just a cover of things I as actually feeling, but didn’t want to admit.”

— Kathy Frankel

“Mine was emotional depression, not chemical depression. More like a black cloud. Once I realized I could watch my mind, when I could see the patterns of the mind, they weren’t always pleasant to see, but I wasn’t hiding from it anymore. So the depression was gone. If I hadn’t done meditation, I don’t think it would have gone away.”

— Kathy Frankel

“I’m trying to find a way to maintain compassion and kindness for people who don’t believe the way I do, yet at the same time, point out that this is not right. I think it’s one of the most important parts of my practice right now. ”

— Kathy Frankel

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